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[AnandTech] Talking TDP, Turbo and Overclocking: An Interview with Intel Fellow Guy Therien

Source: https://www.anandtech.com/show/14582...ow-guy-therien

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One of the most misunderstood basic technical points over the past decade is related to power consumption and how different CPUs react differently to load. The basic premise is that when there is extra power budget available, individual cores can raise their frequency and voltage to maximize performance on short time scales, scaling back when more cores are needed. The confusion comes from how this works, intertwined with how TDP relates to power consumption. After some interesting personal discussions at Computex, Intel Fellow Guy Therien, the Chief Architect of Intel’s Client Performance Segmentation agreed to go on the record about how Intel has defined and adapted its explanation of TDP and Turbo, as well as speak to Intel’s new Performance Maximizer overclocking tool. We also cover Intel’s approach to the enthusiast market.

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Just read that. You gotta love it when even their "engineer" sounds like a PR person..
Two and three paragraphs of wall-o-text per specific question in order to basically tell you nothing really; or rather, let's be fair, nothing we didn't already know
Exceptions (for me) being:

+ The non 'overclocking' "bit" and how abusing the second power limit and the Tau are somehow 'in spec'. Honestly shocked to read that and i suppose that's good news.
- Their mentality, or rather the evolution of their mentality regarding 'K' CPUs; this on the negative side of things. I fear a future where the current 'K' variants will be sold as effectively a 'K-', with full support of their new auto-OC tool; and a nu..new 'K+' variant, where you will actually be allowed to go all manual, but with the relevant price increase that would entail; a price increase that would be on top of the current 'K' markup that is. For obvious reasons. They always milked as much as they could and this is a good way to milk some more.

On a general/surface level? The usual hypocricy that is the trademark of Intel. One example, 'cause if i list them all no one will read, (ADHD generation..), would be the following:
We didn't see AMD's RM and PBO software as something potentially disruptive and decided we needed an equivalent, nope, we just understood (the coincidence!) at this precise moment in time that we needed somehting similar! No reason!
But because we're Intel, not only will we pretend it's "us" offering this (after, as stated, all that research! For you guyz!), we'll also charge you for it! Woohoo! Why get it for free elsewhere when you can buy it from us!

* Generally overly bitter about Intel, yes, but not due to some.. bias or prejudice. Am tired of the excessive product segmentation, the conservatism, the needless over-complicating of things, the insane pricing and lastly? The new trend with the Microsoft Store-only iGPU drivers. Yet another trend i fear will only expand, end up covering all their drivers. Walled gardens. Anyway, this is an article about TDP, i know, but again, unless you (read: figuratively) never bothered reading on it, honestly nothing new here. Just Intel being Intel. So allow me to exrapolate please. Because, again, when even an engineer is full of ****, that's pretty much all i can do.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Aenra View Post
Just read that. You gotta love it when even their "engineer" sounds like a PR person..
What are you implying with the quotation marks around the word Engineer?

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Quote: Originally Posted by Alex132 View Post
What are you implying with the quotation marks around the word Engineer?

https://www.linkedin.com/in/guy-therien-9988312/
Because in tech companies about half the damn employees have engineer in their title and engineers they are not. I know at Dell probably 40% of the company has engineer somewhere in their title. We have an engineering department. Less than 200 people worldwide work in it. This is a company with 145000 employees.


Yeah I looked at his profile. He's not an actual engineer.

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Yeah I looked at his profile. He's not an actual engineer.
Yes he is actually.
He has been working in intel for 26years from basic chip engineer to chief architect, along with a bachelor in computer science from 1984 (my guess before you were even born). He has several patents from 2002 until today under his name. Patents he developed from being a senior engineer to being a team leader.



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Quote: Originally Posted by Alex132 View Post
What are you implying with the quotation marks
Is that what got your attention? Really..? Out of everything mentioned, implied and/or paving the way for.. that's what stuck with you..

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Because in tech companies about half the damn employees have engineer in their title and engineers they are not. I know at Dell probably 40% of the company has engineer somewhere in their title. We have an engineering department. Less than 200 people worldwide work in it. This is a company with 145000 employees.


Yeah I looked at his profile. He's not an actual engineer.
I could put on the ring bell of my door "engineer doctor Joe Average", well, I ended up to don't even have name and surname on my door ringbell!!! I have an engineer degree but I'm totally NOT an Engineer! But, you know, someone else should act differently, and would be legit.

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