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[AnandTech] Intel's Xeon Cascade Lake vs. NVIDIA Turing: An Analysis in AI

Source: https://www.anandtech.com/show/14466...-nvidia-turing

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It is been going on for a while, but as we’ve experienced firsthand, machine learning-based AI applications are being rolled out successfully, and they are a game changer for both software and hardware. As a result, future server CPU reviews will never quite be the same: it is not Intel versus AMD or even ARM anymore, but NVIDIA too. NVIDIA is extremely successful in the deep learning market, and they are confident enough to take on Intel in areas where Intel dominated for years: HPC, machine learning, and even data processing. NVIDIA is ready to accelerate a much larger part of the data pipeline and a wider range of AI applications.
No surprise here, would of also liked to see AMD's Radeon VII also on this test.

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Out of the box, the EPYC CPU is a rather mediocre transactional database CPU ... transactional databases will remain Intel territory for now.
This caught my eye ...

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This caught my eye ...
they have a review of that actually.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/11544...-the-decade/18

the reason is because EPYC's cache structure is clustered yet not coherent, making transactions between the cache and cores take a significant penalty.

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they have a review of that actually.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/11544...-the-decade/18

the reason is because EPYC's cache structure is clustered yet not coherent, making transactions between the cache and cores take a significant penalty.

Thanks for the link.
I started reading the article but then I got lost in the comments for 30 minutes *rofl*

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This isn't a big surprise. CPUs are still too full of instructions and built too complex to be real calculations dedicated hardware compared to dedicated add-on cards.
And GPUs are moving to be able to do more and more parallel computation, that they give CPUs in multi threaded applications a run for their money.


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That is very true, an ideal architecture for running my OS and games is very different from a transactional database or weather simulation. There will probably always be a place for different architectures within one larger machine.

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ROME launches in a week on august 7th. confirmed in conference call now, lets see how next article will look like again 8280 vs ROME.
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That is very true, an ideal architecture for running my OS and games is very different from a transactional database or weather simulation. There will probably always be a place for different architectures within one larger machine.
off topic but the fact that those types of things (weather simulations etc.) will be background processes on a PC in a few decades is crazy to think about.


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This caught my eye ...

Yes you found the test they configured specifically to run in cache, only clear win over EPYC. This whole article is a joke, leaving out AMD when AMD is replacing Xeon cpu's not Nvidia.

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Yes you found the test they configured specifically to run in cache, only clear win over EPYC. This whole article is a joke, leaving out AMD when AMD is replacing Xeon cpu's not Nvidia.
Clearly states an AI analysis in the title. nVidia is their competition. It's the reason why they dropped their Xeon Phi and are working on GPUs along with their One API computing stack. It's also the reason AMD released Instinct cards along with their own computing platform named ROCm in 2016.

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