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You are so right. The 4 dimm 32GB kit will undoubtedly be priced over $500. For a 1 or 2% performance gain , it is not worth it. Right now I have a 32GB 2 dimm dual rank G. Skill kit ated at DDR4 4000 CL19-19-19-39 running at 3600mhz CL14-15-16-16-34-48-356. That is pretty damn good. I paid $319 for this kit from Newegg 4 weeks ago. The Neo kit at the price they will charge is strictly for bragging rights and is not worth the price for the piddling performance game achieved with it.
Is this your kit? https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-...82E16820232768 F4-4000C19D-32GTZR

I have that kit and haven't even fired up my new build yet. Did your settings take more than 1.35v?

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I would see if you can find a video on the software it uses before you buy them, if the rgb functionality matters to you. Some of these RGB things are friendly to turning the lights off, and some of it is like corsair (rainbow vomit unless the software is running in the background).
I got the ram and the rgb can be disabled and saves the setting without the software having to be relaunched every time.. They are B-die as well.

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I'm just using 3200 cl16 sticks atm, but these B-Die kits are making me drool. If I save up for a 9900k and the Maximus Extreme z390 I'll have to snatch 32gb of these asap.

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I currently have the Trident Z 3200mhz CL16 kit that are NOT B-die. Hynix, and they won't do a single mhz over their advertised 3200, even with upping their voltage passed 1.35v all the way up to 1.5v.

The only thing they'll do is tighter timings, and even then I've upped the voltage to 1.38-1.4v.

Have had them since before first gen Threadripper so it's not bothering me too badly.

But I'm definitely ready to ditch this kit and snag something else. That T-Force kit looks like the best one to snag. Hopefully they'll have some more in stock within the next few weeks!

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It is most likely just an unknown kit like you said. Given that it has flat timings at 4133 speeds we can almost guarantee just by looking at the specs that it is B-Die. Either that, or a godly level golden kit of another chip.
Can confirm, they are b-die, currently running 3666 1:1 on 3900x CL14


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I'm just using 3200 cl16 sticks atm, but these B-Die kits are making me drool. If I save up for a 9900k and the Maximus Extreme z390 I'll have to snatch 32gb of these asap.
I have thought about this a great deal. If your current memory gives you 3600mhz and CL16-16-16=16 then it really is a complete wate of money to get the top tier Neo 4 dimm kit. Why do I make su ch an emphatic statement? Because your net performance improvement in ral applications is only likely to be 1%. That is hardly worth expending an extra $200 above other high end 32GB memory kits. I was every enamored with the specs when I first saw the announcement as well. But it is essentially fools gold. Looks good on paper , but no price/performance value whatever. Knock your socks off if you like.1% is not wotth over $200 more.

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Is this your kit? https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-...82E16820232768 F4-4000C19D-32GTZR

I have that kit and haven't even fired up my new build yet. Did your settings take more than 1.35v?
Same kit and I am using 1.44 volts as recommended by Rysen Dram calculator.

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I'm on a Asus Crosshair VIII Hero and I tried XMP settings at 4000 1.35v just for kicks and it didn't even boot. With my 3900x, Fclk 1900 doesn't work with SOC boosted, but 1866 works on auto. So, I'm running at 3733 and I need like 1.485v on the RAM for stability. At 1.47v, I got reboots when opening apps. I still need to do some stability testing, but it seems OK so far. Timings are 14-15-14-35 or something like that I think. I'm using one of the DRAM presets on the board. I couldn't get the Ryzen RAM application timings to work at the recommended voltage. I don't know if it's the board or the RAM, but it seems to need more voltage than most. Then again, timings are pretty tight.

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