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post #1 of 37 (permalink) Old 08-02-2019, 11:14 PM - Thread Starter
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[Pana-Sony] Dual layer IPS combat Oled deep blacks


Basically this panasonic tech back in 2016.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/10874...its-brightness

Only £30K for the brexit.
Apparently very close to OLED blacks, higher peak HDR than pooled.
16ms input lag
Apple cheaper 6K XDR using similar tech?
Apple is cheaper.
Apple wins

Dual layer/core/chiplet IPS 1000:1 x 2 = 1,000,000:1

Someone like Dell needs to bring this down to PC monitor space.
Take a cheaper IPS at 500:1 x 2 = 250,000 : 1, win

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Why is there such an issue trying to get OLED's burn in and power consumption issue fixed?

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Why is there such an issue trying to get OLED's burn in and power consumption issue fixed?
material science isn't advanced enough to do it.
burn in is caused by fast material degradation, where as power consumption is caused by low material performance.

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Apple cheaper 6K XDR using similar tech?
Apple is cheaper.
Apple wins
Initially, it was thought Apple was using this tech (which would justify the premium), but, AFAIK, they're only using standard IPS tech with local dimming (576 zones - the same as the new AHVA monitors).

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I see hisense is a typical chinese clone. Of course if it is cheaper to make, i want it to come down to monitors.
That said, peak brightness 300nits? Not good enough.
I think using IPS is smarter, since you dual layer give you high contrast already, no need for VA at all.
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335 W LOL, gotta love that "pro" power consumption.

Dual layer is old but they barely want to make any. The second layer is not the exact same. It's tricky to align, but doable. All the expensive PC monitors should have been dual layer by now.
It's all up to panel makers and we all know how lazy they are with innovating and introducing new improved panels that make their older obsolete. They will always spit out old panels as long as they can and not innovate unless absolutely necessary.
Why other electronics improve yearly, monitor panels improve each decade...
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I think that bcz of OLED getting sales and there are ppl who buy it, that opened big enough margins to invest in dual layer LCD to sell at little cheaper then OLED, so if the margins are there- the panel makers will jump on it.
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we should kick start the ultimate gaming monitor, pure direct digital connection, no wasteful designs and what not!
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Been waiting for this to catch on since Panasonic invented this in 2015...still no commercial applications other than Professional reference monitors and Industrial monitors/screens.

My dream monitor would be dual layer, Nano-IPS, microLED back-lighting with proper HDR, Freesync 2, ELMB, 144+hz 4K, and probably 40" non-curved...one can dream...

Edit: Actually my DREAM monitor would be SED/FED, but I cannot see that tech coming back from the dead any time soon.
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