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post #11 of 73 (permalink) Old 08-11-2019, 09:19 PM - Thread Starter
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Quote: Originally Posted by looniam View Post
please there is no way you can tell what they said and when they said it by looking at a thumbnail on the timeline.
the written word is far superior over a video.

and i'll add a foreign language. translated closed captions are a huge fail over a translated page.

people are getting lazy and illiterate.
because the purpose was saving time not watching the whole presensation/outro and intro of the video... i dont know if you understand but the reviews on some sites arent even technical at all and say pretty much the same someone could say in video,written benchmark reviews for techspot arent better than hardware unboxed videos(assuming they are just comparing performance) that without couting the amount of banners with advertising on the pages and not sure if you have noticed but many pages are decaying in popularity people dont even visit them and arent indexed properly by google, most of english reviews are superfitial and those which are good probably are in other languages like german

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Thanks for posting!

On a different note, does it bother anyone else that so many of these review videos would be 1000x more efficient if they were on a webpage that you could easily scroll through vs. watching a ~15 minute video?

I feel this way about most sites too: just give me one page and let me keep scrolling!
Totally agree. I love reading reviews as technical details are far easier to understand when written down than heard.

The popularity of these channels shows that people have the attention span of a nit (actually a nit might have a longer attention span) and the literacy of a kindergarten kid.

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Old men yell at cloud and bash other people...

These YouTube reviews aren't that much different than traditional website reviews, most people just go straight to the graphs.

And you know what? Some benchmarks are actually better shown via videos than simple graphs, games is a prime example for this, you can't show dropped frames with written texts, graphs and pics no matter how detailed the data being shown.
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Quote: Originally Posted by PontiacGTX View Post
because the purpose was saving time not watching the whole presensation/outro and intro of the video... i dont know if you understand but the reviews on some sites arent even technical at all and say pretty much the same someone could say in video,written benchmark reviews for techspot arent better than hardware unboxed videos(assuming they are just comparing performance) that without couting the amount of banners with advertising on the pages and not sure if you have noticed but many pages are decaying in popularity people dont even visit them and arent indexed properly by google, most of english reviews are superfitial and those which are good probably are in other languages like german
nice try. but you haven't addressed the point. it's much easier and quicker to scroll a page and find a reference immediately than scanning through a video of whats said. how popular any web site is or was is irrelevant and actually reinforces my point that people are getting lazy and illiterate.

jesus, just look at your post; one continuous run on sentence with atrocious grammar. you watch videos a lot do you?
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Old men yell at cloud and bash other people...

These YouTube reviews aren't that much different than traditional website reviews, most people just go straight to the graphs.

And you know what? Some benchmarks are actually better shown via videos than simple graphs, games is a prime example for this, you can't show dropped frames with written texts, graphs and pics no matter how detailed the data being shown.
you must have never seen a frame time graph. here you go:
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those little spikes dropping down to zero are dropped frames.
go take a look at this video - those are the same graphs that would be on a web page you would reading. except you don't have to listen to someone explain the differences. i'd agree that actual game play is better shown but that's not whats happening here; a 17 minute video with 10 minutes of showing graphs.

something i could have read and understood as well in 5 minutes. though i am ignoring how you tube processes videos; where dropped frames and even stuttering gets lost. those are really shown with using a frame time graph via OSD. if you don't know what that is, than refer to the image i posted above.

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Quote: Originally Posted by looniam View Post
nice try. but you haven't addressed the point. it's much easier and quicker to scroll a page and find a reference immediately than scanning through a video of whats said. how popular any web site is or was is irrelevant and actually reinforces my point that people are getting lazy and illiterate.

jesus, just look at your post; one continuous run on sentence with atrocious grammar. you watch videos a lot do you?


you must have never seen a frame time graph. here you go:
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those little spikes dropping down to zero are dropped frames.
go take a look at this video - those are the same graphs that would be on a web page you would reading. except you don't have to listen to someone explain the differences. i'd agree that actual game play is better shown but that's not whats happening here; a 17 minute video with 10 minutes of showing graphs.

something i could have read and understood as well in 5 minutes. though i am ignoring how you tube processes videos; where dropped frames and even stuttering gets lost. those are really shown with using a frame time graph via OSD. if you don't know what that is, than refer to the image i posted above.
that is an exposition of the data, not showing the actual dropped frames.
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There are some excellent youtube content creators out there Igor Wallossek and Roman 'der8auer' Hartung come to mind. They are enthusiast and they do proper testing.
My main issue with the extremely popular tech channels is that their testing method is beyond questionable. If it isn't properly documented and can't be replicated than
it is totally pointless. If you have to watch a youtube video to see how to use your new lab equipment to make a new youtube video of you using lab tech equipment.
Hope you see my point. Plenty of big hardware review websites with questionable test results as well.

I don't want to be depending on reddit or youtube for in-depth tech analysis.

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I also prefer reading a website and getting the answer to what I'm looking for in a snap, but I guess these guys doing the testing wants to get paid and youtube is where they will get paid without having us pay anything.
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Bunch of ole crotchety men arguing about the delivery of the information rather than the information itself. Where the mods at when we need em?

On topic: The results are inline with what you'd expect. The i9 9900k is top dog when it comes to having the highest framerate throughout a multitude of games, followed by the 3900x and then in last, the 3600.

The 3600 really impresses me, despite the fact its pulling the lowest numbers all around. Primarily due to the fact that a 200$ CPU (180$ with rebate) is able to keep pace with a 480$ CPU when gaming <=144hz.
If you're gaming on a 240hz monitor, intel is going to still take the cake there unfortunately.
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