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post #21 of 154 (permalink) Old 08-17-2019, 10:27 PM
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***At the same dba/fan rpm that is***

Modern reference cards cool quite well otherwise, especially if your ambient temp isn't bad and you don't mind bumping up the fan rpm a bit. 90% of the time I'm using my headphones and my houses is around 66°-70°F typically. My case also has a Silverstone FHP141 (140mm x 38mm) intake fan at the bottom that feeds air into my V64 as well. No problem keeping my gpu at/under a max of 70°C - and that's with +155mhz on the HMB2 and the gpu core set to 1667mhz (typically holds 1630mhz)
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Quote: Originally Posted by dagget3450 View Post
https://www.pcgamer.com/fretting-ove...-spec-on-navi/




Operating with the the spec of the Sun is fine folks. Nothing to see here move along. Also, please stop returning your reference AMD cards for dents this is by design!
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I think the AMD statement is poorly worded. 100C+ on a GPU is obviously not ideal, but the silicon can handle it. The issue goes away because 99% of people will buy aftermarket coolers for their cards, reference designs basically die after the big GPU guys start selling their custom coolers. I dunno, seems like it's not really an issue for most.

I'm very curious to see what the hotspot temps are on the RTX2XXX series are. I never see it talked about, and my understanding is that Nvidia doesn't report it, only the edge temp.

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If that was the case everyone with a stock Radeon VII would of already reported multiple failures. This isn't the GPU core temperature but a hot spot. This is due to the heat density of 7nm, I expect nVidia to also have similar sensors with their 7nm parts.
I have a stock VII. It doesn't reach 110c.
Also it would start to throttle down at around 90c when pushed.

If there is a 110c host spot, it affects things around it, and reduce the heat clearance of other areas (like memory, VRMs, etc). It would still possibly reduce life expectancy of the electronics around it over time.
I think the claim of "110c is fine" is to cover their ass so people won't start returning cards as defective until they can either roll out new coolers or less factory cards are in the market and more AIBs.



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been a long time since I've seen triple digits in gpu-z.....

128 degrees 6600GT anyone??

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you guys have short memories:

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When the tables were turned. The 480 was 250w running with a crappy cooler and the 5870 was 225w so it could afford to come with a crappy cooler.

Though a generation later AMD matched nvidia with power and heat by raising their cards power demand to match nvidia performance, and after that nvidia produced lower watt cards than amd and included a better cooler, and suddenly AMD stoped talking about it for some obscure reason.


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been a long time since I've seen triple digits in gpu-z.....

128 degrees 6600GT anyone??
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If you are going to make some troll comment at least understand that this is not gpu core temps as was used in the past. AMD sensors poll very fast now, so that high voltage may only last a millisecond. Some people actually read the statement and realize this can mean any number of sensors, inc vrm etc. Funny how Intel can sell 100c for decades and no one says a word.

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When the tables were turned. The 480 was 250w running with a crappy cooler and the 5870 was 225w so it could afford to come with a crappy cooler.

Though a generation later AMD matched nvidia with power and heat by raising their cards power demand to match nvidia performance, and after that nvidia produced lower watt cards than amd and included a better cooler, and suddenly AMD stoped talking about it for some obscure reason.

My GTX 1060 gets warmer than my reference XT.

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