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post #21 of 145 (permalink) Old 10-02-2019, 09:18 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by PontiacGTX View Post
if this is the same architecture as 7000 series Skylake X, they will underperform in games and probably AMD will be faster
Some of us actually work and use engineering software. As far as your gaming concern, it is simply due to lack of L3 cache. Which cascade lake-x has plenty of. Let the benchmarks begin!
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I'm cpubound in 4k in BFV with 2x 2080ti.

Cpubound in 3440x1440p with even one 2080ti.

Read: higher minfps vs 3900x 🙂

1440p is noticable cpubound in BF V with 3900x.

But hey, you do you 😉
Fair enough, if getting 3 to 5 extra fps in BF V is the only thing that matters to you and everything else is of no consequence, I will concede. You do you.


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Quote: Originally Posted by Nizzen View Post
I'm cpubound in 4k in BFV with 2x 2080ti.

Cpubound in 3440x1440p with even one 2080ti.

Read: higher minfps vs 3900x 🙂

1440p is noticable cpubound in BF V with 3900x.

But hey, you do you 😉
Fair enough, if getting 3 to 5 extra fps in BF V is the only thing that matters to you and everything else is of no consequence, I will concede. You do you.
7980xe is my workstation, but love to play Battlefield after kids are sleeping 😎

For me, 7980xe has been "the full package" for 2 years. Very good performance for Everything.

Regards from a performance fanboy 😉

CPU24/7) 7980xe - 7900xMOBO: ASUS Rampage Apex x299 / Asrock Taichi x299RAM: 4x 3600c15 / 4x4266c19/ 4x4000 c17 GPU: 2x MSI tri X 2080ti / 1060tiSTORAGE: Areca 1883i HDD R6 + Samsung 850PROs R0 - 3x SM961 nvme 1TB - 3x Intel Optane 900p 480GBCASE: LD cooling V8 R/B / ld cooling reverse R/BMonitor: Acer x34 /Asus 27 AQ 4k g-sync / Asrock x570 Taichi / 3900x
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if this is the same architecture as 7000 series Skylake X, they will underperform in games and probably AMD will be faster
Some of us actually work and use engineering software. As far as your gaming concern, it is simply due to lack of L3 cache. Which cascade lake-x has plenty of. Let the benchmarks begin!
Tweaking the memory is the best fix for 7xxx series, and fixing the high latency. More L3 is even better 🙂

CPU24/7) 7980xe - 7900xMOBO: ASUS Rampage Apex x299 / Asrock Taichi x299RAM: 4x 3600c15 / 4x4266c19/ 4x4000 c17 GPU: 2x MSI tri X 2080ti / 1060tiSTORAGE: Areca 1883i HDD R6 + Samsung 850PROs R0 - 3x SM961 nvme 1TB - 3x Intel Optane 900p 480GBCASE: LD cooling V8 R/B / ld cooling reverse R/BMonitor: Acer x34 /Asus 27 AQ 4k g-sync / Asrock x570 Taichi / 3900x
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Subtle humor regarding the topic at hand. I couldn't help but notice this (gotta love those emojis and how the code for them is interpreted; no offense meant to the poster):

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18 cores? + expensive board and RAM. Pass. There are better value options.
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7980xe is my workstation, but love to play Battlefield after kids are sleeping 😎

For me, 7980xe has been "the full package" for 2 years. Very good performance for Everything.

Regards from a performance fanboy 😉
Like I said, fair enough if that's your thing, fly that flag.

I'm running a 7900X and it's been doing right by me for sure. Just sayin' that the ipc and clock gains on Ryzen have closed the gap in single threaded performance so much that it's basically a draw in gaming (especially if you crank the settings up in 4k) and obviously with way more cores just savages Intel on the workload front all at a lower price point. It would be pretty silly of me not to lean toward threadripper this round.

The real clincher is having more PCIE lanes and at 4.0 though for me. Having that extra freedom and no worries about being obsolete in 2 years really puts the icing on the cake. The fact that intel themselves don't have enough faith in their latest HEDT chips to think they merit the new chipset and whatnot needed to implement PCIE 4.0 is pretty telling I think.


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Price looks good tbh, but I'm pretty sure it'll get beaten by TR3 for workstation loads.

What's the process optimization we're looking at here? Is it on par with 9900K or an older 14nm optimization?


But where's X299"X"? Isn't there a new chipset also bundled with Cascade Lake X?
The "X" is some we (GIGABYTE) added to our boards to show they were designed for Cascade Lake-X. The physical chipset is the same.

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This must be sign intel realizes its situation (till its 7nm architecture is ready) so if its willing to take big hit on profit margins, it can remain competitive on consumer side. Its the server side that the big money and AMD is really targetting there and Intel is getting hit hardest there. Now only if they only temporarily adopted AMD pattern of allowing older boards to use the latest CPU's, it would help them keep there current users (Z390/HEDT group) as Intel users with the need to only upgrade CPU at affordable price.
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Dudes get touchy when you mention AMD in a negative way. I don't get it...
If you liked or used AMD and had to deal with a constant stream of being **** on by trolls, you'd likely be touchy too. Enthusiast forums are sort of a cesspool of toxicity about brand and product choice where people and their gear preferences are often insulted simultaneously.

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