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You got me, I did not actually read the article

Well.......hope my X470 taichi will be ready for it whenever they will be released......

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So Milan says it is Zen3 and still regular SMT. Pretty much guarantees right there that SMT4 rumors are false.

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post #14 of 68 (permalink) Old 10-07-2019, 06:51 AM
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So Milan says it is Zen3 and still regular SMT. Pretty much guarantees right there that SMT4 rumors are false.
Perhaps, we're too far out to know for sure. Perhaps it was a feature planned, but scrapped in favor of doubling the actual core count, again.

Or maybe it's only to be enabled on Epyc servers.

Either way, I hope single-core performance is at least +10% over Zen 3, I'd prefer that over more cores, TBH- 12/24T is enough for me for a while

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Perhaps, we're too far out to know for sure. Perhaps it was a feature planned, but scrapped in favor of doubling the actual core count, again.

Or maybe it's only to be enabled on Epyc servers.

Either way, I hope single-core performance is at least +10% over Zen 3, I'd prefer that over more cores, TBH- 12/24T is enough for me for a while
This is an Epyc roadmap and it clearly shows two threads per core. SMT4 would just slow down performance on x86, we have enough threads thanks to AMD.

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This is an Epyc roadmap and it clearly shows two threads per core. SMT4 would just slow down performance on x86, we have enough threads thanks to AMD.
Now that it is a 8C CCX with clock speed improvement, do you think AMD will finally take the gaming crown from Intel for Zen 3? Even in the might of I9-9900KS?

I hope they do, really hope they do.


P.S: I would not even talk about Comet lake because with 10C, the flagship 10900K will not be able to overtake 9900KS at all as the process node is already facing its limit at 5GHz all cores. 8C to 10C has little to no impact on gaming (in fact it might drop FPS) so its pretty useless.

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Now that it is a 8C CCX with clock speed improvement, do you think AMD will finally take the gaming crown from Intel for Zen 3? Even in the might of I9-9900KS?

I hope they do, really hope they do.


P.S: I would not even talk about Comet lake because with 10C, the flagship 10900K will not be able to overtake 9900KS at all as the process node is already facing its limit at 5GHz all cores. 8C to 10C has little to no impact on gaming (in fact it might drop FPS) so its pretty useless.
The switch to a unified L3 cache will definitely help reduce latency. The question will be regarding IPC when the time arrives. How quick will Intel's processors be when Sunny Cove finally hits desktop? They're currently 18% faster than Sky Lake.

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The switch to a unified L3 cache will definitely help reduce latency. The question will be regarding IPC when the time arrives. How quick will Intel's processors be when Sunny Cove finally hits desktop? They're currently 18% faster than Sky Lake.
Sunny Cove will not be out this fast if Intel is dropping the I9 10900K. It will be a big slap to Comet lake buyer if they drop Sunny Cove desktop chip anywhere within 6 months of Comet lake release.

This lead me to believe Zen 3 will direct compete with CL while Zen 4 will compete with Sunny Cove.

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That would be good for performance and efficiency.
Zen keeps getting better every gen, enough that one might regret not waiting.
Yeah it seems that AMD finally broke through the wall of silly ideas that peaked with bulldozer and someone finally found something that could actually work.
Now if they can improve clocks as TSMC improve manufacturing, they will start to basically harvest intel's market.
I'm sure intel are starting to not just panic, but get internal meltdowns as they processing ability stagnate and bugs on top of bugs appear.


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