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post #11 of 58 (permalink) Old 10-18-2019, 01:48 PM
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Unless you factor in the gpu portion. I'd still take an AMD laptop at this point if we are talking integrated graphics.
I'd take a 1065G7 over any current mobile chip. It outperforms the 3700u in everything including graphics.

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I used to sell laptops at Best Buy and the average buyer didn't know or care what an i3 or an i7 was. They typically had a specific use in mind and wanted something to meet that need at a price $150 lower than what was possible.

The goofy naming scheme is likely not going to confuse the average consumer base as much as it will the enthusiasts. And most of these processors are going to be sold to average consumers, meaning the naming convention doesn't matter all that much. Still in the end Intel could have done better.


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I used to sell laptops at Best Buy and the average buyer didn't know or care what an i3 or an i7 was. They typically had a specific use in mind and wanted something to meet that need at a price $150 lower than what was possible.

The goofy naming scheme is likely not going to confuse the average consumer base as much as it will the enthusiasts. And most of these processors are going to be sold to average consumers, meaning the naming convention doesn't matter all that much. Still in the end Intel could have done better.
My frustration with their naming is due to 3 architectures under the 10th generation branding. Now I have to lookup the models to see what architecture they're based on.

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Pretty much the same as Zen 2.

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Intel: releases better product than the competition for low-power devices

AMDerps in the comment section: "lel 14nm+++++++++++++++"
You know, you don't have to carry water for the gigantic corporation.

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You're right, in the sense that I don't have to do anything at all. Thanks for the reminder.

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You could try a more reasonable comment. I don't see how that's better than the AMD fanboys and their comments in other threads.

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He does have a point though. People are often mentally invested in one camp or the other and get some level of enjoyment from thread crapping on who they see as the opposition.

It goes way, way back to tribal theory. And it's not gonna change any time soon.

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You could try a more reasonable comment. I don't see how that's better than the AMD fanboys and their comments in other threads.
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