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NVMe and gamers in the same sentence is funny. I'd love to see a gamers reaction when they find out they paid 80% more for a 1-2 second decrease in load time compared to a SATA SSD.
I picked up a sabrent rocket because it had the M.2 form factor I needed for my laptop and was 20% cheaper than a comparable SATA SSD. No physical way to jam a 2.5" SSD into the M.2 slot unfortunately.

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[I picked up a sabrent rocket because it had the M.2 form factor I needed for my laptop and was 20% cheaper than a comparable SATA SSD. No physical way to jam a 2.5" SSD into the M.2 slot unfortunately.
That's definitely a better decision than a m.2 SATA drive. NVMe drives are competitive with SATA drives in pricing. I've been eyeing a Silicon Motion SM2262EN 2TB drive for a bit now. Going to see if any dip below $200. I was just taking a jab at gamers buying Samsung NVMe drives and Gen 4 NVMe drives for $200+ for a 1tb. They could of saved 80-100% by buying a SATA drive and they wouldn't notice a difference.

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Funny you should mention the EX950 because I'm looking at that myself to bump up storage volume. It's crazy to me how far SSD prices have fallen in the past 2 years.

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I picked up a sabrent rocket because it had the M.2 form factor I needed for my laptop and was 20% cheaper than a comparable SATA SSD. No physical way to jam a 2.5" SSD into the M.2 slot unfortunately.
I own one 500GB and another 2TB from Sabrent, excellent drives imo.

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Do you have any leads to this? you know anything concrete?
Just check OS loading times and you will understand.

Relatively speaking, difference is big.

But IRL absolute difference of 3 seconds is nothing.

A NVME if it loads the OS for 2 seconds, and a SATA SSD for 5, do you think you will notice such differences in daily usage?

Same with games, 5s for the next level to load vs 10s.

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Then there is the whole SATA driver layer... I believe NVME is less CPU intensive.

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NVMe and gamers in the same sentence is funny. I'd love to see a gamers reaction when they find out they paid 80% more for a 1-2 second decrease in load time compared to a SATA SSD.
it may be funny to you, but look @ gamer boards. Chuck full of nvme slots.

also, most folks don't just game... 2x 1TB NVME Vs. 2x 1TB SATA SSD... NVME is gonna win every time for moving your large anime cache around, even when comparing $100 NVME 1tb sticks to $100 1TB SATA SSDs.

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Quote: Originally Posted by skupples View Post
it may be funny to you, but look @ gamer boards. Chuck full of nvme slots.

also, most folks don't just game... 2x 1TB NVME Vs. 2x 1TB SATA SSD... NVME is gonna win every time for moving your large anime cache around, even when comparing $100 NVME 1tb sticks to $100 1TB SATA SSDs.
Who keeps a TB of weeb fuel on an SSD and moves it around on a daily basis? I would understand if you're an electronic composer who plays his music live so any sample latency reduction is welcome, but just for games that are made for slow HDD consoles? It's just a money grab for the uninformed.

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looooooooooooooooool

that's probably a much better example.

btw, you're slightly behind. consoles aren't using spinny disks anymore, and the new ones coming are all solid state from the get go. RDR2 is 150GB on PC, so apply that forward to these next consoles. I wouldn't be surprised if they have nvme upgrade slots on the consoles

again, in a world of $100 TB NVME vs. $100 TB SATA SSD, and cheap boards coming with 2+ slots (these kinda slots aren't new, my P67 had SATA M.2) the 1TB NVME stick wins every time, no matter how much you hate on it, even if the loading times for 99% of daily use will be perceptibly identical. That doesn't even factor in people wanting them simply because there are no wires to hook up.

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Who keeps a TB of weeb fuel on an SSD and moves it around on a daily basis? I would understand if you're an electronic composer who plays his music live so any sample latency reduction is welcome, but just for games that are made for slow HDD consoles? It's just a money grab for the uninformed.
well you know that it really doesn't need to be use cases for the convenience of using an NVME drive but cases themselves. there are quite a substantial more options with a limited need for 2.5/3.5 drives and a plethera more if there isn't a need for any at all.

lose a hard drive rack and *boom* you have space for a pump/res too in almost every case.

just making . . ya know.

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