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post #151 of 160 (permalink) Old 11-25-2019, 10:57 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by dansi View Post
https://www.anandtech.com/show/15062...19-fall-update

AMD is not wanting to compete with Cascade Lake X...
With the benefit of hindsight and judging from what happened at 12AM today, I think that statement is backwards. :-)

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With the benefit of hindsight and judging from what happened at 12AM today, I think that statement is backwards. :-)
Yep. This is not competing. At all:



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GO INTEL! *shakes pom poms* AMD is dumpster fire garbage, stay away! Look at Nizzens benchmarks he will show you how intel smashes AMD!!!

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GO INTEL! *shakes pom poms* AMD is dumpster fire garbage, stay away! Look at Nizzens benchmarks he will show you how intel smashes AMD!!!

GO 14+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOORAY!!
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Agreed. I've seen enough 3900X/3950X reviews from LTT, Gamers Nexus, etc. to know AMD is definitely in the driver's seat. They forced Intel to cut their prices in half (and stop overcharging us) while AMD offers more cores/threads for less $$. In the end, it's good for us consumers who are planning our next upgrade or full system build.

EDIT: I just saw the sarcastic response cherry-picking Intel graphs that favor higher clock speed over more cores. So, I'll do the same and pick a few of them myself where AMD 3950X destroys the 9900KS and even beats the $2000 9980XE.













Here's the link, it goes back and forth between Intel and AMD, but in the end AMD wins!

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And next year, which is a few months from now, Ryzen 4000 is coming. Intel needs to hurry up their 10 or 7nm offerings.
They will keep burning cash on incentive/rebate programs etc. To keep people buying their products over AMD's, same as before.
They can't beat them with product sometimes but they can so far always beat them with money.

As some reviews have again repeated, it can't be denied that AMD is the one pushing things forward again and again while Intel and NV sit back and reap the fruit as late adopters.

I would not equate Zen 2 to x64 etc. It's not that big of a slaughter or change. The real change has been long known and finally implemented in sold products to masses already, chiplets. The more sensible approach in designing dies and reusability.

With the clocks being pushed as high as possible by AMD it really shows clearly where the best dies go and why desktop CPUs clock the worst with high volts as they truly are the bottom bin dies. Meanwhile Intel used to mask this by running their server and high end CPUs at lower clocks than desktop parts but also often having different dies for many. With AMD's one die fits all approach the binning is painfully obvious.

With Zen 3000 the perf./price improvement has gone to a stall again.

If reviewers are "blown" away by 3960/70X... they are gonna need a medical team standing by when 3990X launches unless AMD locks it down to 280W which will certainly limit it a lot. The 64 core Epyc is a monster but they don't clock high, if they let the TRs clock high with high power... it's gonna be a toaster but a high performance toaster.
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They will keep burning cash on incentive/rebate programs etc. To keep people buying their products over AMD's, same as before.
They can't beat them with product sometimes but they can so far always beat them with money.
That is very true, cant name names but somebody's name with ll , vovo and pp are giving serious rebates to their partners for intel products, meanwhile one has to dig deep into offerings and really beat the salesperson for amd stuff as they are clueless.

Any one who says anything else that hey w00dstock stop lying you can see on their website, see that is compelled by amd but your businesses dont browse their damn sites.If IT managers are good and not getting kickbacks from vendors ( yes this happens industry, have worked in industry) they have to dig really deep and even tech support gets tough.This is not some rocket science but intentional blocks and when stuff breaks down, on C level its a blame game he said she said, no i told you to buy intel but you bought amd and there you are blamed. Businesses dont see intel and amd they see reliability and up time + support. IF, any of that is messed up it quickly comes down to mud slinging and politics in the organization, which leads to as you guessed safe options even when they don't make sense.
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Worth the upgrade from 8700K @ 5Ghz?
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Worth the upgrade from 8700K @ 5Ghz?
I'll be more helpful. To put it simply...

For gaming, no. It's "just okay" as Gamers Nexus concluded in their review.

For a workstation setup doing content creation, etc. Then yes, it's worth the upgrade.

If you're looking to do both about equally, consider a 3900X or 3950X instead.

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