Originally Posted by rdr09
And next year, which is a few months from now, Ryzen 4000 is coming. Intel needs to hurry up their 10 or 7nm offerings.
They will keep burning cash on incentive/rebate programs etc. To keep people buying their products over AMD's, same as before.
They can't beat them with product sometimes but they can so far always beat them with money.
As some reviews have again repeated, it can't be denied that AMD is the one pushing things forward again and again while Intel and NV sit back and reap the fruit as late adopters.
I would not equate Zen 2 to x64 etc. It's not that big of a slaughter or change. The real change has been long known and finally implemented in sold products to masses already, chiplets. The more sensible approach in designing dies and reusability.
With the clocks being pushed as high as possible by AMD it really shows clearly where the best dies go and why desktop CPUs clock the worst with high volts as they truly are the bottom bin dies. Meanwhile Intel used to mask this by running their server and high end CPUs at lower clocks than desktop parts but also often having different dies for many. With AMD's one die fits all approach the binning is painfully obvious.
With Zen 3000 the perf./price improvement has gone to a stall again.
If reviewers are "blown" away by 3960/70X... they are gonna need a medical team standing by when 3990X launches unless AMD locks it down to 280W which will certainly limit it a lot. The 64 core Epyc is a monster but they don't clock high, if they let the TRs clock high with high power... it's gonna be a toaster but a high performance toaster.