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post #71 of 80 (permalink) Old 12-06-2019, 09:49 PM
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Unlike AMD, nVidia actually expanded their market for their GeForce lineup with the introduction of Tensor cores and Studio drivers. While AMD just released an architecture purely for gaming.
lol you think the vega series is eol and that's it? you know better, idk why you seem to play

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that's the one thing that keeps nagging me.

intel is keeping pace with 14nm & glue.
NV is keeping pace on 12nm(?).

will both return to steam roll status when they finally shrink?
Thermal output per area 14 nm = a.
Thermal output per area 7 nm = b.
Thermal output per MHz 7nm/14 nm = about 0.34.

b = a*0.34*14^2/7^2
b = 1.36*a

As we can see 7 nm would have hard time to get heat out of die. Thus I doubt it would be that drastic change. TSMC/Samsung would likely have improved 7nm++ node, and Intel would still be likely behind.
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lol you think the vega series is eol and that's it? you know better, idk why you seem to play
Where did you get that conclusion? Read the post above yours. I do not believe we'll see another high end Vega consumer card.

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Navi is for games due to consoles. If it was purely for desktops it would not exist
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Navi is for games due to consoles. If it was purely for desktops it would not exist
Well AMD is in a position to keep both GCN and NAVI. Back in 2012 GCN was fast enough for gaming and compute. Now it better to have gaming-focused and compute focused.

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Unlike AMD, nVidia actually expanded their market for their GeForce lineup with the introduction of Tensor cores and Studio drivers. While AMD just released an architecture purely for gaming.
Actually, AMD shrunk their previous architecture GCN for Navi for gaming. AMD already had more compute than Nvidia. It was Nvidia who gimped compute on their gaming cards since about Fermi.

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Actually, AMD shrunk their previous architecture GCN for Navi for gaming. AMD already had more compute than Nvidia. It was Nvidia who gimped compute on their gaming cards since about Fermi.
What? AMD didn't shrink GCN, they created a new architecture called RDNA for consoles. Fermi was the first actual complete GPU computing architecture. It set multiple records including winning the first ImageNet competition. You're mixing up Fermi with GK104.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Raghar View Post
Thermal output per area 14 nm = a.
Thermal output per area 7 nm = b.
Thermal output per MHz 7nm/14 nm = about 0.34.

b = a*0.34*14^2/7^2
b = 1.36*a

As we can see 7 nm would have hard time to get heat out of die. Thus I doubt it would be that drastic change. TSMC/Samsung would likely have improved 7nm++ node, and Intel would still be likely behind.
Yeah. This is why VII and Navi have such a high hotspot.

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Personally I am waiting for 5800xt or 5900xt in first half 2020. In the mean time I got a 1660ti since my monitor is still 1080p (monitor upgrade after GPU upgrade). If the 5300xt didnt dud for the $ I might have gone that route.

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Personally I am waiting for 5800xt or 5900xt in first half 2020. In the mean time I got a 1660ti since my monitor is still 1080p (monitor upgrade after GPU upgrade). If the 5300xt didnt dud for the $ I might have gone that route.
I don't think there will be RX 5800 or 5900. They will most likely be called something else because of RDNA2. We will most likely see something in lines with 290/290X launch.

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