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[AnandTech] Qualcomm Announces Snapdragon 865 and 765(G): 5G For All in 2020, All The Details

Source: https://www.anandtech.com/show/15178...ll-the-details

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We’re here in Maui for the second day of Qualcomm’s fourth annual Snapdragon summit, for what is probably the most exciting part of the event, as we cover the disclosure of the intricate details of the brand new Snapdragon 865 and 765 SoCs that the company had briefly announced yesterday.

Indeed, this year, Qualcomm isn’t launching just one SoC, but rather two new platforms at the same time. The Snapdragon 865 is self-explanatory in its positioning; as a direct successor to the Snapdragon 855 we expect the new chip to represent the best Qualcomm is able to deliver, and be the silicon that powers most of 2020’s flagship devices. The new top-model this year is accompanied by the new Snapdragon 765 and 765G SoCs. As with other 7-series models since the launch of the new range, the new generation adds of the new features introduced with the new Snapdragon 865, at a lower performance level and a more affordable price for what is becoming an increasingly popular device category.

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865 on TSMC and 765 on Samsung, does this mean that samsungs node isnt as good as expected and theyve had to outsource?

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865 on TSMC and 765 on Samsung, does this mean that samsungs node isnt as good as expected and theyve had to outsource?
from what i remember, TSMC's is high-density low-power, Samsung's on the other hand is low-density high-power.

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Biggest problem with the 8 series snapdragon has been heat since the 808 days. And the heat issue is only strengthening with each successive update. Razer & Asus both have novel designs to address this but I'm not seeing that from Samsung or any other Android device MFR's. In fact a buddy of mine has the S10+ and he loves it aside from the device being uncomfortable to hold while he plays a game.

So this is neat and all, but it looks to me like the dev's are focusing on 5G and not addressing the long running issue they've had. Maybe it's not as easy as it looks to tackle?

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how would this benefit devices like Switch? I feel like Nintendo needs to deliver a proper switch replacement, where the dock does additional processing so you can upscale to 4K60.

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The fact that entry level SoCs like the Snapdragon 4XX series are so powerful is nothing short of awesome. I remember when the Snapdragon 800 first launched, and the 600 and 400 were simply waaay too slow to even be considered for cheap phones. Now? The SD 450 is actually super viable due to improvements in all areas.

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Quote: Originally Posted by jdc122 View Post
865 on TSMC and 765 on Samsung, does this mean that samsungs node isnt as good as expected and theyve had to outsource?
There is also capacity. Samsung are starting to make a lot of chips for different companies. Themselves, nvidia, intel, qualcomm, broadcom, IBM. And on top of that there is a big trade war between s. korea and japan, which also makes ordering chips from TSMC preferred to some companies. And of course TSMC are first to push EUV 7nm+.


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Yet many new phones still use dated SoCs for higher profit.
well if new SoCs where made cheaper than the dated SoCs then they'd switch into it.
one way to do this is to bin chips, another is a more lightweight SKU.

speaking of lightweight SKUs, i wish they'd make a low performance, ultra-low power SoC.
e.g. using their example for instance:
2x Cortex A77 @ 2.42GHz 2x256KB pL2
4x Cortex A55 @ 1.80GHz 4x128KB pL2
Memory Controller 2x 16-bit channels

slow? yes, but it would be really energy efficient.

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