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post #371 of 384 (permalink) Old 01-22-2020, 12:12 AM
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dude... lol...

all it was, and ever will be, was me attempting to figure out what you were talking about. googling it brought back cinemizers, so you were asked to clarify. You clarified it didn't exist...
And then you responded with an insulting comment.

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well, at least you can keep up with you.
I'm still waiting for your apology.
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to get back on topic we now have a pretty good idea on what the back of the xbox x will look like:





https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/d...ed-in-new-leak
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saying you keep up with you is an insult? I'd call it more of an insinuation. I apologize for insinuating you're more bonkers than me.

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to get back on topic we now have a pretty good idea on what the back of the xbox x will look like:





https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/d...ed-in-new-leak
someone gave no fux about firewalls and NDAs.

manufactured in Nov 2019, so, that's likely damn near finalized.

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saying you keep up with you is an insult? I'd call it more of an insinuation. I apologize for insinuating you're more bonkers than me.
If this is how you respond to basic factual statements you must be a genuinely very grumpy and unpleasant person.
I hope you can wake up tomorrow feeling better than you do now.

But really a bunch of people on here just have emotional attachment problems with your overpriced PC hardware and y'all are bitter that a $500 peasant box is going to outclass your $1,300 GPU within a two year window.
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Quote: Originally Posted by ILoveHighDPI View Post
If this is how you respond to basic factual statements you must be a genuinely very grumpy and unpleasant person.

I hope you can wake up tomorrow feeling better than you do now.



But really a bunch of people on here just have emotional attachment problems with your overpriced PC hardware and y'all are bitter that a $500 peasant box is going to outclass your $1,300 GPU within a two year window.


Sure it will... By that window it’ll be a 3 1/2 year old GPU so I should hope next gen can come close to matching it.
Console graphics are like PC graphics with everything turned off but keep thinking we’ll be “outclassed”

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If this is how you respond to basic factual statements you must be a genuinely very grumpy and unpleasant person.
I hope you can wake up tomorrow feeling better than you do now.

But really a bunch of people on here just have emotional attachment problems with your overpriced PC hardware and y'all are bitter that a $500 peasant box is going to outclass your $1,300 GPU within a two year window.
correct. I'm a terribly jaded arse that's narrowly escaped death multiple times. Just imagine if you'd paid attention before the near death experiences, when i was a turbo-dick.

if the $500 >> $1300(my 2080ti was $800 ) part is in reference to me, you're way off. I'm stoked for these new boxes to re-draw the middle line. Everyone benefits. More so though, I'm looking forward to ~2022 when Intel starts to actually compete, and AMD has caught up.

you got what you wanted, I'll be waiting for my thank you

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correct. I'm a terribly jaded arse that's narrowly escaped death multiple times. Just imagine if you'd paid attention before the near death experiences, when i was a turbo-dick.

if the $500 >> $1300(my 2080ti was $800 ) part is in reference to me, you're way off. I'm stoked for these new boxes to re-draw the middle line. Everyone benefits. More so though, I'm looking forward to ~2022 when Intel starts to actually compete, and AMD has caught up.

you got what you wanted, I'll be waiting for my thank you
Thank you.
I'm sorry for dragging it on too.


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Sure it will... By that window it’ll be a 3 1/2 year old GPU so I should hope next gen can come close to matching it.
Console graphics are like PC graphics with everything turned off but keep thinking we’ll be “outclassed”
I suppose if we're counting the 2080Ti as being basically the same thing as the 1080Ti then yes you're right, it's really sad that Nvidia both chose to release such a disappointing card as the 2080Ti and that the level of competition allowed it.
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Sooo more numbers are trickling in and I thought I would run through an exercise in arithmetic:
Xboxsx die size 405 mm2
4800H d size 149 mm2
VII d sz 331/8= 41 mm2
4800H -gpu= 108 mm2
Xboxsx gpu = 297 mm2
Navi10 d size 251 mm2
297/251=1.18, 2Ghz/1.18=1.7Ghz
Xboxsx power cable 250w
4800H is Zen2, but has 1/2 the L3(game) cache as Zen+ so I'm expecting similar performance as Zen+ per clock
5700XT is closest to 2070, but take ray tracing die space out and what's left may be closer to 2060

My estimation of the Xboxsx in comparison to pc hardware is about an overclocked 4770k with between a 2060 and 2070.

And we've had console hardware in desktop long enough to know how effectively that console optimization magic is working out. Basically about as well as tuning settings and doing upscaling.

Hopefully it will be better but still a good jump, especially in the cpu department.

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Quote: Originally Posted by rluker5 View Post
Sooo more numbers are trickling in and I thought I would run through an exercise in arithmetic:
Xboxsx die size 405 mm2
4800H d size 149 mm2
VII d sz 331/8= 41 mm2
4800H -gpu= 108 mm2
Xboxsx gpu = 297 mm2
Navi10 d size 251 mm2
297/251=1.18, 2Ghz/1.18=1.7Ghz
Xboxsx power cable 250w
4800H is Zen2, but has 1/2 the L3(game) cache as Zen+ so I'm expecting similar performance as Zen+ per clock
5700XT is closest to 2070, but take ray tracing die space out and what's left may be closer to 2060

My estimation of the Xboxsx in comparison to pc hardware is about an overclocked 4770k with between a 2060 and 2070.

And we've had console hardware in desktop long enough to know how effectively that console optimization magic is working out. Basically about as well as tuning settings and doing upscaling.

Hopefully it will be better but still a good jump, especially in the cpu department.
Seems reasonable.

It's exceedingly disappointing that M$ wants to keep supporting the garbage heap of hardware that is the original Xbox One S. Depending on how that works out, we might actually see 120 FPS in some games on the early Series X titles just because the devs cannot increase fidelity enough even to stress current midrange hardware, because they are mandated by their M$ overlords to get their game running at 720p 30fps on low end hardware from 7 years ago. We might not see the higher fidelity next gen games show up until after that mandate wears off... we'll see how it goes.

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