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I keep seeing between 12-14Tflops for the GPU, which like I said before...Is very high, a 2080ti is around 13-14Tflops.

Holy smokes that's looking good...All in-engine apparently.
TFlops doesn't reflect gaming performance. If it did RX Vega and the Radeon VII would of destroyed their counterparts.

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Can't even do 1080p60 and you're gonna tell me you're gonna do [email protected]/120... brah no.
I can't stand it when they lie like that.

I wish they would come out and say
"AND NOW WE ARE COMMITTED that ALL games on Platform XYZ will run at minimum of 1080p60"
I would actually believe them.

Also MS and especially Sony learned that pricing a console above 500 mark = disaster.
you misread something.

The box has an HDMI 2.1 port. FPS and resolution have nothing to do with it. It's about what the port is capable of.

also, if you think it won't be doing 1080p60 then you're delusional. AAAs will all release with 4K60 target. They'll have the power ~5700 currently has, with all the benefit of custom API.

so people rioted over XB1X's release? Because it was well over $400. The market is changing, on both ends, high and low. two SKUs already exist on the current gen, so expecting otherwise this time around is a bit strange. of course the #s are all guesses, but there will definitely be a base model and OP model for a couple hundred more.

either way - we're getting hdmi 2.1 on our GPUs next time around because consoles are forcing the hand.

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TFlops doesn't reflect gaming performance. If it did RX Vega and the Radeon VII would of destroyed their counterparts.
While you are correct, it is a way to get a rough estimate of what sort of performance we will be getting.
Comparing a 5700XT (RDNA 1.0/9.7tflops) vs Xbox Series X's GPU (RDNA 2.0/ 12-14tflops) I think is a fair comparison.


This GPU + console optimization magic + likely far superior DXR tech > 2080 Ti. Quote me.

Also, Halo Infinite is also releasing next Holiday season...Should we expect an 'enhanced' version at launch?

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woah now, get outta here with that logic. 2080ti trumps all, cuz reasons. APIs be damned!

honestly, what i really want from M$ is a genuine gaming mode in their operating system, but that'll never happen cuz xbox... unless the two eventually merge, which would be cool.

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woah now, get outta here with that logic. 2080ti trumps all, cuz reasons. APIs be damned!

honestly, what i really want from M$ is a genuine gaming mode in their operating system, but that'll never happen cuz xbox... unless the two eventually merge, which would be cool.
At the moment Windows 10 has many Xbox features and even a "gaming mode", which I never use.
Xbox App, Xbox Game Pass, etc all allow you to connect to your Xbox Live buddies, and share content, a few games even allow cross play between console and PC players. Windows and Xbox are extremely close currently, it's only getting better too man.


Window's game mode: "The Game Mode prevents system background activities such as Windows updates or notifications from apps during game play, all to offer a more consistent gaming experience. In this guide, we explain what Game Mode is, and what it can do for gamers:"

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While you are correct, it is a way to get a rough estimate of what sort of performance we will be getting.
Comparing a 5700XT (RDNA 1.0/9.7tflops) vs Xbox Series X's GPU (RDNA 2.0/ 12-14tflops) I think is a fair comparison.


This GPU + console optimization magic + likely far superior DXR tech > 2080 Ti. Quote me.

Also, Halo Infinite is also releasing next Holiday season...Should we expect an 'enhanced' version at launch?
Optimizations? You mean dynamic resolution scaling. It won't have superior BVH accelerating hardware just like the HD 6000 series didn't have superior tessellation performance compared to the GTX 400 series. nVidia has been working on BVH acceleration for over a decade while AMD just started taking it seriously in 2016.

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Quote: Originally Posted by skupples View Post
you misread something.

The box has an HDMI 2.1 port. FPS and resolution have nothing to do with it. It's about what the port is capable of.

also, if you think it won't be doing 1080p60 then you're delusional. AAAs will all release with 4K60 target. They'll have the power ~5700 currently has, with all the benefit of custom API.

so people rioted over XB1X's release? Because it was well over $400. The market is changing, on both ends, high and low. two SKUs already exist on the current gen, so expecting otherwise this time around is a bit strange. of course the #s are all guesses, but there will definitely be a base model and OP model for a couple hundred more.

either way - we're getting hdmi 2.1 on our GPUs next time around because consoles are forcing the hand.
No I didn't misread anything.
I was commenting about their misleading marketing and hype at every console generation. You can tout all about hardware and show us "in game" footage but I highly doubt we'll see [email protected] in AAA titles as a norm for the 1st few years.

And yeah, history has taught console manufactures that buyers are only willing to spend a certain amount. You can come at above the 500 dollar mark, but I highly doubt you'll get the sales numbers.

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definitely right, and yet all that actually matters is hdmi 2.1 you can't overhype the fact that's happening. anyone smart realizes they've just listed those specs as the capabilities. par for the course. they'll capture the money people would otherwise spend upgrading via sku#2, how far that goes, we're yet to see. how many models of Xbox1 ended up releasing? 3? now two models, standard and pro?

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I actually like nearly every aspect of this console, y'all are just negative haters!! lol


Zen 2 CPU? Nice.

RDNA 2.0 with DXR? Nice.

4k? Nice.

The box design? I personally like it but I can understand why one wouldn't.

I believe this will be a quality buy for console users...But considering this is OCN, just build yourself a PC.


RDNA 2.0 is super interesting imo. 14teraflops on a console is NUTS. a 5700XT is what...9-10 teraflops?

EDIT: a 2080ti is only 13 tflops....This GPU is a BEAST.

Also, Xbox Series X is an awful name.
Tflops is a useless metric as far as gaming is concerned. That said, consoles besting 2+ year old flagships isn't that outlandish of an idea. Amphere and big Navi will smash it in gaming due to nothing more than having such a larger power budget so PC folks shouldn't worry about system envy.

Absolutely expect 1080p 60 fps for games that utilize a lot of raytracing, 2k 120 for competitive games, and 4k 60 for rpg type games based on those specs.



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