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Yep sometimes I think these exotic solutions are created to boost slumping sales. Though in all honesty laptop cooling is in dire need of a revamp. My Dell G series has literally begun to melt the plastic housing from use - And that's with a Throttlestop undervolt & on an elevated riser!

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Yep sometimes I think these exotic solutions are created to boost slumping sales. Though in all honesty laptop cooling is in dire need of a revamp. My Dell G series has literally begun to melt the plastic housing from use - And that's with a Throttlestop undervolt & on an elevated riser!
Wow, which model? I have the G7 7588 with 8750H and the 1060 Max-Q, about a year and a half old with some pretty consistent and heavy use. Nothing like that happening to me yet.

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Wow, which model? I have the G7 7588 with 8750H and the 1060 Max-Q, about a year and a half old with some pretty consistent and heavy use. Nothing like that happening to me yet.
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my Z Book literally suffocates itself via a giant oval rubber grommet on the bottom, then burning hot air oozes out of the back. so it sits on a little wedge to let it breath.
These insane cooling solutions just don't deal with the larger issues that come with having too high clockspeeds on a mobile device. I've never understood the obsession with having periodic boosts to 5Ghz on mobile. Infact, I don't think a mobile chip should ever go above 4Ghz. Laptop users rarely use that power let alone care for it. Ice Lake is a step in the right direction. I think this cooling solution is worthless, because that heat is still going *Somewhere*, and on a laptop, that somewhere is usually not the air surrounding the device but instead a blanket or an individuals legs/hands.

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There are lots of good options for desktops. Laptop cooling has been severely neglected for some time now. Aside from Clevo's add more heat pipes philosophy I can't think of any laptops with sufficient cooling for something like an i7-9750H/i7-8750H.
I mean my laptop has a fully fledged 8700k at 5ghz and runs just fine...

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I mean my laptop has a fully fledged 8700k at 5ghz and runs just fine...
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There are lots of good options for desktops. Laptop cooling has been severely neglected for some time now. Aside from Clevo's add more heat pipes philosophy I can't think of any laptops with sufficient cooling for something like an i7-9750H/i7-8750H.

That's because there are none. They're all furnaces. Intel claims the 8750H and 9750H are 45w TDP processors. They are closer to 65w parts and most laptops cannot handle that kind of thermal output. I know I have mine undervolted and have repasted twice now and temps are just staggeringly high even in average workloads.

They really need to get their act together and stop blatantly lying about TDP values. No one cares about the average or overall TDP when the machine triggers an emergency thermal shutdown under full load. It says something when most experienced reviewers state that 90*C is normal and OK for CPU temps when previous processor generations had people freaking out at hitting those numbers. It's not normal to have to repaste every three months because the TIM burns out.

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you can blame those turbo-boosts being far too aggressive.
they do in fact have "45W TDP", but only if you don't factor in the aggressive turbo-boost, which kicks in so long as its not throttling by heat.

they had explained this part when they were doing their atom chips, 2W TDP but they boost well beyond 10W for a "brief" moment to get a good kick on performance.

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