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post #51 of 64 (permalink) Old 01-07-2020, 04:49 PM - Thread Starter
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Quote: Originally Posted by KyadCK View Post
You literally can not read.

Try again.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore%27s_law
Your comment is literally meaningless and not relavent to anything I said. Try again.

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I thought it was common knowledge on OCN that the I series was a huge improvement over core 2. Close to 50% if I recall correctly.
Proof that 32nm provide 2x more performance than 40nm?

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I thought it was common knowledge on OCN that the I series was a huge improvement over core 2. Close to 50% if I recall correctly.
Nehalem was no where close to being 50% faster than Yorkfield. If you said Phenom II, I could see that.

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The hell is going on with this thread? People can't understand Moore's Law? Pictures of Jose Morinho at Chelsea FC?
I'm waiting for Trump and Elon Musk memes now....

1.) A 7% IPC increase from AMD year on year is damn impressive, seeing as for a while there we were getting 0% from Intel.

2.) It doesn't affect Moore's Law, which we shouldn't obsess over anyways (even Intel's CEO himself says so).


Any questions?

I mean, we can talk about Jose's new stint at Tottenham if you guys want?

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Nehalem was no where close to being 50% faster than Yorkfield. If you said Phenom II, I could see that.
I mean to say the Core 2 series to the first gen I series. I looked up some benchmarks and it looks like it was around 25% faster that times around. So OK, not 50%, but easily more than 7%, (or 10.3 for an 18 month period).

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Quote: Originally Posted by UltraMega View Post
I mean to say the Core 2 series to the first gen I series. I looked up some benchmarks and it looks like it was around 25% faster that times around. So OK, not 50%, but easily more than 7%, (or 10.3 for an 18 month period).
Several factors attributed to that jump in performance.
> Like Zen, Nehalem was years in the making and was a complete redesign of what came before.
> Like Bulldozer, Conroe had reached its design limitations so a redesign was required.
> Like Zen, Nehalem was designed to be a big bump in performance.
> Like Zen, Nehalem wasn't perfect and had room for improvement, so the Sandy Bridge leap was possible after it.

How in the world do you expect gains like that for every generation?

Subsequent designs were simply shrinks and tweaks of the original design. Shrinking stopped at 14nm as Intel had stubbed their toe on 10nm so Intel kinda had to make tweaks to Skylake and basically re-release the same CPUs every year on a more refined 14nm until 10nm works or 7nm is done. So pretty much no gains from Skylake onwards.
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Quote: Originally Posted by warr10r View Post
Pictures of Jose Morinho at Chelsea FC?

I mean, we can talk about Jose's new stint at Tottenham if you guys want?
If you got any pictures of him moving goal posts at Tottenham to illustrate that that's what some people in this thread were doing, feel free to post them.

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Quote: Originally Posted by UltraMega View Post
I looked up some benchmarks and it looks like it was around 25% faster that times around. So OK, not 50%
So the sky is teal after all.

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So the sky is teal after all.
Not really, the point I was trying to make was just that 7% annually isn't unreasonable.

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Pipe down Peanut Gallery. I don't know where in Vulcan's Forge you all got the idea that AMD has to tape out new CPU's to improve IPC 1 percent per year as that's all they need to do each year to meet that goal. What I see them doing is refining the Microcode and improving the instruction sets of the CPU's.

Of course, there's always the fact that improvements in one place may slow things down in another and that's what has to be watched for. From what I can see right now though, by improving the microcode's efficiency, AMD has a real chance of hitting that 10 percent goal for a decade and if we are lucky, they may offer those improvements to all of us early adopters unlike Intel.

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