Originally Posted by Defoler
TBF being first to PCIE isn't that big of an achievement in terms of need.
Intel were the first to start using DDR4 while AMD waited for AM4, and AMD owners were all about "yeah it doesn't matter".
Intel were also the first to PCIE 3.0 and AMD owners were all about "yeah but our GPU isn't bottlenecked in 2.0".
Intel were also the first to M.2 if I remember right.
So it doesn't really matter. AMD might be the first to jump the gun, but it isn't going to change when and how we will use it. That will most likely wait until nvidia and intel will also join in. It might push the others to use it faster, but from what I have seen, it could be that intel will skip and go right into PCIE 5.0 (which specs are already final and released early last year, so it will make more sense).
Intel's first generation of DDR4 chips also supported DDR3L as they knew the cut over would take time.
AMD also had 25.6GB/s of bandwidth available via HT to their 40-lane PCI-e 2.0 NB and 6xSATA3 SB, while Intel's consumer boards supported 8GB/s (PCI-e 2.0 x16) and 2x SATA3, 4x SATA2.
NVMe on M.2 2280? Yes. M.2 is an old and very confusing socket though, being used for everything from laptop WiFi/WAN, to mSATA solutions.
Originally Posted by deafboy
Love progress but this is absolutely an enterprise level tech
Honestly, who on here has been bottle necked by their NVME PCIe 3.0 4x drives?!
Every intel Z370 user that tries to run more than one GPU and one NVMe SSD.
Originally Posted by dagget3450
This still doesn't explain why Intel has no PCIE4.0 chipsets released or releasing short term. They obviously see a reason to make a PCIE 4th gen SSD.
You realize your statement is contradicting itself? why would they be developing pcie4th gen SSDs if they are skipping to 5th gen? Also, I dont have time to search it up(maybe someone else can) Intel may have released pcie 3.0 to the consumer first, but IRC AMD was first to make pcie 3.0 gpus. I am sure somewhere at one time or another a person might have posted such responses. However if your looking at actual tech sites, they did do testing on pcie speeds and gpus. again IRC single gpus were not exceeding or capping pcie bandwidth speeds at the times of testing with then current hardware. i'm sure there are tons of these articles out there.
Countering your "Intel were also the first to PCIE 3.0 and AMD owners were all about "yeah but our GPU isn't bottlenecked in 2.0". with https://www.legitreviews.com/intel-s...-gamers_212350
I want to see the crow eating begin when intel releases PCIE 4th gen motherboards. it's coming...
In defense of Intel, their iGPU was likely using PCI-e 3.0 before AMD came out with a PCI-e 3.0 dGPU.
Originally Posted by SwitchFX
I'm curious if this affects all NAND producers. Micron/Crucial produces most of their chips in the US, don't they?
Yes, because global supply is going down while global demand is going up.