[TechSpot] Intel is prototyping PCIe 4.0 SSDs, but needs AMD CPUs to test them - Page 5 - Overclock.net - An Overclocking Community
Forum Jump: 

[TechSpot] Intel is prototyping PCIe 4.0 SSDs, but needs AMD CPUs to test them

Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #41 of 44 (permalink) Old 01-09-2020, 01:35 PM
Hey I get one of these!
 
KyadCK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Chicago
Posts: 7,377
Rep: 313 (Unique: 219)
Quote: Originally Posted by deafboy View Post
So you're limited by the number of lanes from your platform... a gen4 SSD isn't going to solve that if you platform doesn't support it.
By adding a 2nd NVMe SSD, they chop their GPU bandwidth and are bottle-necked because the SSD exists.

That and everyone is bottlenecked by every non-optane NVMe SSD. 4K Randoms suck even inside cache, which 4.0 can help with by enabling the use of faster cache.

Forge
(15 items)
CPU
AMD Ryzen R9 3900X
Motherboard
Gigabyte X570 Master
GPU
AMD 5700XT PowerColor Devil
RAM
32GB G.Skill TridentZ Neo (2x16GB 3600Mhz/C16)
Hard Drive
Intel 900P 480GB
Power Supply
Corsair AX1200
Cooling
Corsair H150i
Case
Phanteks Evolv X
Operating System
Windows 10 Enterprise x64
Monitor
2x Acer XR341CK
Keyboard
Corsair Vengeance K70 RGB
Mouse
Corsair Vengeance M65 RGB
Audio
Sennheiser HD700
Audio
Sound Blaster AE-9
Audio
Audio Technica AT4040
▲ hide details ▲
KyadCK is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #42 of 44 (permalink) Old 01-09-2020, 05:21 PM
Tech Enthusiast
 
deafboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: San Diego
Posts: 12,254
Rep: 443 (Unique: 337)
Quote: Originally Posted by KyadCK View Post
By adding a 2nd NVMe SSD, they chop their GPU bandwidth and are bottle-necked because the SSD exists.

That and everyone is bottlenecked by every non-optane NVMe SSD. 4K Randoms suck even inside cache, which 4.0 can help with by enabling the use of faster cache.
Yeah, so you're limited by the number of lanes base on the platform you are on....

Will admit that 4k random reads suck, but that's also not really a limit of PCIe 3.0

IN HONOR OF SYRILLIAN, R.I.P.
ASUS ROG Rampage IV Black Owners Club || PNW Overclockers Club
BMW TJ07 Build Log -- The Ultimate Cooling Machine
2 year anniversary In Remembrance of a Great - RIP Syrillian
HTPC
(10 items)
Overkill FreeNAS
(10 items)
CPU
AMD Ryzen R5 3600
Motherboard
ASUS ROG Strix B450-I
GPU
nVidia Titan XP
RAM
Corsair LPX 3200C16 8GBx2
Hard Drive
Samsung PM981 1TB
Power Supply
Corsair SF600
Cooling
Noctua L9i
Cooling
Accelero Xtreme III
Cooling
Noctua NF-A12x25s
Case
Fractal Design Node 202
CPU
E5-2670v1
CPU
E5-2670v1
Motherboard
Supermicro X9DRL-iF
Hard Drive
12x HGST 4TB CoolSpin
Hard Drive
6x WD Red 8TB
Power Supply
Corsair AX750
Cooling
2x Noctua nh-u9dxi4
Cooling
3x Scythe AP-30
Case
Norco 4224
Operating System
FreeNAS
CPU
Intel Xeon E5-1680 V2
Motherboard
Asus Rampage IV Black Edition
GPU
nVidia Titan XP (2100/5200)
RAM
Corsair Dominator Platinum 32GB
Hard Drive
Intel 750 400GB
Hard Drive
Intel 750 1.2TB
Hard Drive
Samsung PM981 1TB
Power Supply
Corsair AX1200i
Cooling
2x Swiftech D5 w/ EK Dual Pump Top
Cooling
XSPC EX480, EX360 & 2x Phobya 1080
Cooling
EK Supremacy EVO CPU Block
Cooling
EK Advanced 250mL Res
Cooling
Lamptron FC-5V2
Cooling
EK Rampage IV BE Water Block
Cooling
Copper Tubing w/ push fittings
Cooling
EK-FC Titan XP Copper/Acetal
Case
Silverstone TJ07, heavily modified
Operating System
Windows 10 Pro
Monitor
Asus PG297Q
Keyboard
Leopold Otaku
Mouse
Corsair M65
Mouse
Corsair MM600
Audio
Sennheiser HD595 / HD428 / HD280
Audio
Corsair SP2500
▲ hide details ▲


deafboy is offline  
post #43 of 44 (permalink) Old 01-09-2020, 05:27 PM
New to Overclock.net
 
Schmuckley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: FL
Posts: 14,373
Rep: 701 (Unique: 562)
Quote: Originally Posted by dagget3450 View Post
This still doesn't explain why Intel has no PCIE4.0 chipsets released or releasing short term. They obviously see a reason to make a PCIE 4th gen SSD.




You realize your statement is contradicting itself? why would they be developing pcie4th gen SSDs if they are skipping to 5th gen? Also, I dont have time to search it up(maybe someone else can) Intel may have released pcie 3.0 to the consumer first, but IRC AMD was first to make pcie 3.0 gpus. I am sure somewhere at one time or another a person might have posted such responses. However if your looking at actual tech sites, they did do testing on pcie speeds and gpus. again IRC single gpus were not exceeding or capping pcie bandwidth speeds at the times of testing with then current hardware. i'm sure there are tons of these articles out there.

Countering your "Intel were also the first to PCIE 3.0 and AMD owners were all about "yeah but our GPU isn't bottlenecked in 2.0". with https://www.legitreviews.com/intel-s...-gamers_212350

I want to see the crow eating begin when intel releases PCIE 4th gen motherboards. it's coming...
I love the "Expert pin-bender" thing! :thumbsup:
Schmuckley is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #44 of 44 (permalink) Old 01-10-2020, 02:35 PM
New to Overclock.net
 
lifeforce's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 6
Rep: 0
Hi Everone,

I just wanted to throw this bit of info out there.
it may have been mentioned but I didn't read all the comments yet.

when developing any new products the manufacturers will always test different ways to use the product to verify it will work in almost all conditions.
(this is how the QVL is created)

so if intel is testing their SSD using AMD CPUs, then they are verifying it will work with that hardware.
with that said I would not be surprised if intel was also testing their SSD using other processors too. (for instance: snapdragon processors, apple processors, etc)

if intel only verified that their SSD worked only with intel systems then they will be losing potential buyers.
lifeforce is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Overclock.net - An Overclocking Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off