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"Adata Shows Off SSD with 1 Million IOPS, 7,000 MBps Reads, Expects 6k writes.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/ad...e-ssd-unveiled

There will be some stiff competition. Just not sure I trust my data with these other brands. Samsung has been fully reliable for me. 850 Pro, 850 Evo, 860 Evo and 970 Pro owner.
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To me, Optane/3DXpoint needs to double capacity while cutting cost in half and then it will be something useful to the masses. NAND is just finally at that sweet spot in pricing and size that until something else can match it, nothing will replace NAND. It has enough performance to be good enough while meeting all other criteria.
As I said, capacity, I get.

But to get this cheaper price, NAND is moving to TLC, QLC, and beyond. Lower and lower write endurance, lower and lower actual performance once you run out of cache.

Optane is nearly unkillable, with far more performance. I would like to see price come down, but being realistic, it probably won't. Samsung's Pro drives cost more than their Evos for a reason too.

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What is the theoretical bandwidth cap on NAND flash? It seems as though every time a new PCIE standard is introduced, SSD manufactures produce a drive that saturates it immediately.
None, in theory.

NVMe as a standard (as compared to SATA/AHCI) is extremely parallel capable, and they are cached with actual DDR RAM. As long as the controller can keep up, they can just keep throwing more and more NAND at the problem until the link is maxed. We have been making RAID-like silicon for a very long time, so this is nothing new, it's all just on one little chip these days.

But this is all Seq-Read bandwidth... that isn't very real world relevant, which is why even the cheapest NVMe, such as an Intel 660p, does not feel very different from the worlds "best", like the new 4.0 drives.

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Honestly couldn't care less about the speeds...give me high capacity please
There are plenty of average speed, huge SSDs on the market.

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There are plenty of average speed, huge SSDs on the market.
I wouldn't exactly call 2/4TB huge...

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Couldn't care less about sequential read/write, while this is great in a server it serves no practical purpose even the most demanding home or office machine.

We need drives that allow the OS to boot instantaneously (Intel are nowhere near ready with such drives).
Most of the time the cpu is the bottleneck for Optane 900p/905p i therm of loading OS/programs/games

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Honestly couldn't care less about the speeds...give me high capacity please
6.4TB Samsung PM1725a 5DWPD Enterprise TLC V-NAND PCIe 3.0 x8 NVMe HHHL AIC SSD

1200$ on ebay.... Not enough, then buy bigger

If you REALLY want bigger, you will find it

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Haha, oookay, how about I rephrase....

Would love larger capacity M.2 NVME drives at lower prices

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Haha, oookay, how about I rephrase....

Would love larger capacity M.2 NVME drives at lower prices
Phison or Silicon Motion NVMe m.2 PCIe gen 3(of course) drives are pretty much the same cost as AHCI drives.

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Phison or Silicon Motion NVMe m.2 PCIe gen 3(of course) drives are pretty much the same cost as AHCI drives.
There are loads of great drives out there, would just rather see higher capacity (4+ TB) bumps than speed bumps.

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