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post #11 of 42 (permalink) Old 01-08-2020, 01:11 PM - Thread Starter
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Let's say you have two nodes 3990x. That is 2 sockets per board, and two boards, for 4 CPUs and 512 total threads.

If you choose to buy the cheaper per core 3970x, than you need twice as many CPUs for roughly equivalent performance. That means 8 CPUs, 4 dual socket boards, and more rackmount space.

Moreover, twice as many 3970x boards consume about twice the power of half fewer 3990x boards. Electricity and cooling have associated costs as well.

You can do some of the same math with Intel's offerings.
You can't duel socket 3990x. For that you will need epyc CPUs.
Those will cost you 13K$ per 2 sockets for 64 core each (or 50.78 per thread).
32 cores cost 2000$ each for the low end version of them (or 31.25 per thread).
Those motherboards will cost you a pretty penny as well.



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This is extremely expensive for a pro-sumer chip. I want to see what people who stated (Ryzen 1 era) that AMD wouldn't hike up prices when they outperformed Intel because they are "the good guys and wouldn't do that to us" have to say about this.


While it may maintain the same cost per-core of smaller core chips, it's still a big chunk of cash (and cache). I'm just not sure who this CPU is for; actually *needs* it vs who just wants it. Maybe you could write it off against tax if you are a large rendering company, but then why aren't you already using EPYC CPUs? I do feel like this might just be AMD showing their strength and what they are capable of vs Intel.


I can't think of any non-business that needs this at the moment.

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This is extremely expensive for a pro-sumer chip. I want to see what people who stated (Ryzen 1 era) that AMD wouldn't hike up prices when they outperformed Intel because they are "the good guys and wouldn't do that to us" have to say about this.


While it may maintain the same cost per-core of smaller core chips, it's still a big chunk of cash (and cache). I'm just not sure who this CPU is for; actually *needs* it vs who just wants it. Maybe you could write it off against tax if you are a large rendering company, but then why aren't you already using EPYC CPUs? I do feel like this might just be AMD showing their strength and what they are capable of vs Intel.


I can't think of any non-business that needs this at the moment.
Since the launch if Zen AMD has stated they're going after the performance title. They're doing exactly what they stated for now.

This isn't a prosumer chipset, it's AMD's workstation chipset. This is what competes with Xeon-W.

This is what should have been in the Mac Pro. Xeon-W's are better for deep learning though.

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This is extremely expensive for a pro-sumer chip. I want to see what people who stated (Ryzen 1 era) that AMD wouldn't hike up prices when they outperformed Intel because they are "the good guys and wouldn't do that to us" have to say about this.


While it may maintain the same cost per-core of smaller core chips, it's still a big chunk of cash (and cache). I'm just not sure who this CPU is for; actually *needs* it vs who just wants it. Maybe you could write it off against tax if you are a large rendering company, but then why aren't you already using EPYC CPUs? I do feel like this might just be AMD showing their strength and what they are capable of vs Intel.


I can't think of any non-business that needs this at the moment.
.... Eh? How is this "AMD raising prices"?

The 3990X cost 33% more than the W-3175X MSRP (lol, msrp), but unlike LGA3647, they have more than 500 motherboards world wide, and those motherboards do not cost $1000 each. The actual platform cost of a 3990X vs a W-3175X is about equal, maybe off by 20% at most.

This platform as a whole has better pricing relative to it's only "competition" than the 1950X did.

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And yea, it is AMD flexing. As they should, they deserve it and so does intel. I have no idea who would ever use this chip, but I can sure think of some people I'd like to see get their hands on one.

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I love that people are saying AMD is increasing the price. They aren't... it is scaling with the number of CPU threads. Don't forget too that clock for clock the AMD IPC isn't worse than Intel. Intel was charging 2k for the same 18 core they had for a few years until they were recently forced to lower the price. This 4k gets you 64 cores and more PCIE lanes. It's also not meant for plebs. It's meant for someone who needs this for their business.



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.... Eh? How is this "AMD raising prices"?

The 3990X cost 33% more than the W-3175X MSRP (lol, msrp), but unlike LGA3647, they have more than 500 motherboards world wide, and those motherboards do not cost $1000 each. The actual platform cost of a 3990X vs a W-3175X is about equal, maybe off by 20% at most.

This platform as a whole has better pricing relative to it's only "competition" than the 1950X did.

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And yea, it is AMD flexing. As they should, they deserve it and so does intel. I have no idea who would ever use this chip, but I can sure think of some people I'd like to see get their hands on one.
Isn't that intel cpu over 50$ per thread?

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This is extremely expensive for a pro-sumer chip. I want to see what people who stated (Ryzen 1 era) that AMD wouldn't hike up prices when they outperformed Intel because they are "the good guys and wouldn't do that to us" have to say about this.
2 stupids don't make 1 wise. Unless you're looking for brownies.

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Getting write off against capital expenditure does nothing to my profit. Spending % more does not make my profits jump.

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