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post #22 of 42 (permalink) Old 01-09-2020, 05:46 AM - Thread Starter
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Isn't that intel cpu over 50$ per thread?
W-3175X is 3000$ with 56 threads.
So 53.57$ per thread.
But performance wise overall it performs as fast as the 7702P (or less or better, as always depends on the test), which cost 4400$.
So if you put it against a similar performing CPU, it cost you less.


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VM's, rendering, visualisation, simulation and other scientific calculation. I can imagine several companies who could use this for their DNA simulation and visualisation.
Absolutely. I'd love to get my hands on one of these. It's actually reached the point where RAM has become the limiting factor - with 128 threads, 256GB is simply not enough. Even if I turned off SMT, 4GB/core is just not enough for what I do now. Short of some (extremely expensive) server kit, the only real option now is RAID0'ing four NVMe drives together and using them for swap, which is obviously a far from perfect solution - although even if they wore out and needed replacing inside a year (unlikely) it would still cost a lot less than a server crammed full of 2-4TB of RAM.


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Quote: Originally Posted by Defoler View Post
W-3175X is 3000$ with 56 threads.
So 53.57$ per thread.
But performance wise overall it performs as fast as the 7702P (or less or better, as always depends on the test), which cost 4400$.
So if you put it against a similar performing CPU, it cost you less.

It seems just as fast as the 3970X in production benchmarks. And then, when you factor in security vulnerability, not sure organizations will be willing to use intel. Unless, of course, they do not deal with sensitive data.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Defoler View Post
W-3175X is 3000$ with 56 threads.
So 53.57$ per thread.
But performance wise overall it performs as fast as the 7702P (or less or better, as always depends on the test), which cost 4400$.
So if you put it against a similar performing CPU, it cost you less.
The W-3175X competes against the 3970X, not the 7702P. Same-ish performance, same-ish platform features.

Even if the 7702P is in the same performance bracket, the W-3175X simply can not compete in RAM (512GB vs 2TB) and expansion (48 3.0 vs 128 4.0).

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Quote: Originally Posted by Defoler View Post
W-3175X is 3000$ with 56 threads.
So 53.57$ per thread.
But performance wise overall it performs as fast as the 7702P (or less or better, as always depends on the test), which cost 4400$.
So if you put it against a similar performing CPU, it cost you less.
Isn't the 7702P a 128 thread CPU? How is it worse in any regard than the W-3175X?

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Isn't the 7702P a 128 thread CPU? How is it worse in any regard than the W-3175X?
2Ghz base clock and 3.35 boost with a 200w TDP.

vs

3.1Ghz base clock and 3.8Ghz turbo with a "255w" TDP.

I would not be surprised to see the intel chip winning various single or lightly threaded workloads, and even some heavier ones for a limited time due to turbo/thermal abuse. They are not required to operate at the same power draw after all.

Of course, being an OCable chip, it's competitor is Threadripper, not EPYC.

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jeeeeeeez a worthy upgrade from an 8 core, what would i do with so much POWER???????
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jeeeeeeez a worthy upgrade from an 8 core, what would i do with so much POWER???????
Zip the entire contents of a drive and screen shot the completion time for e-peen points should be the first thing on your list follwed by seeing how long a fully loaded turn on Civilization takes.

Anything else I can think of seems like it would be a hassle or require actually doing work, so you should probably stop there.


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Since the launch if Zen AMD has stated they're going after the performance title. They're doing exactly what they stated for now.
Yes, but people forgot that / ignored it.



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This isn't a prosumer chipset, it's AMD's workstation chipset. This is what competes with Xeon-W.
That is what a prosumer chip is. I can see this being used, but to me it feels more like a flex than anything else.




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.... Eh? How is this "AMD raising prices"?

The 3990X cost 33% more than the W-3175X MSRP (lol, msrp), but unlike LGA3647, they have more than 500 motherboards world wide, and those motherboards do not cost $1000 each. The actual platform cost of a 3990X vs a W-3175X is about equal, maybe off by 20% at most.

This platform as a whole has better pricing relative to it's only "competition" than the 1950X did.



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And yea, it is AMD flexing. As they should, they deserve it and so does intel. I have no idea who would ever use this chip, but I can sure think of some people I'd like to see get their hands on one.

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I love that people are saying AMD is increasing the price. They aren't... it is scaling with the number of CPU threads. Don't forget too that clock for clock the AMD IPC isn't worse than Intel. Intel was charging 2k for the same 18 core they had for a few years until they were recently forced to lower the price. This 4k gets you 64 cores and more PCIE lanes. It's also not meant for plebs. It's meant for someone who needs this for their business.

I'm not sure what it is with the obsession of comparing it to Intel's absolutely awful offerings. Outside of that narrow-focused comparison I really do think the workstation/prosumer chips have gotten the lines blurred with Enterprise offerings and pricing. They've all become extremely expensive.


I don't think the product is bad, I just feel like the lineups pricing is bad (irregardless of whatever Intel is doing at the moment).

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