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post #31 of 42 (permalink) Old 01-09-2020, 01:24 PM
Hey I get one of these!
 
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Yes, but people forgot that / ignored it.

That is what a prosumer chip is. I can see this being used, but to me it feels more like a flex than anything else.

I'm not sure what it is with the obsession of comparing it to Intel's absolutely awful offerings. Outside of that narrow-focused comparison I really do think the workstation/prosumer chips have gotten the lines blurred with Enterprise offerings and pricing. They've all become extremely expensive.

I don't think the product is bad, I just feel like the lineups pricing is bad (irregardless of whatever Intel is doing at the moment).
I mean... OK? Has what you need or even want become stupidly expensive? I know GPUs have, what used to be a mid-size die going for several times their cost a few years ago, flagship values that continue to climb faster in cost than in performance...

But in the CPU space, I see better year over year perf/$ gains, perf/w gains, and features than the past significant history. I see chips that, while you are saying are expensive for prosumer, were previously unavailable to the prosumer, or at least could only be bought in their locked down server counterpart models.

The last time we had something like this was... What, the SR-2? A $570 motherboard with two $1670 CPUs if you wanted the best on the platform. Adjusted for inflation, that is $4,600. Funny enough, a 3990X and a TRX40 MB will run you... $4,600! And RAM is cheaper these days.

And it still cost less than it's 1P locked server counterpart.

I dunno, seems the segements we would care about are getting more affordable and the Halo products are raising higher. But the Halo products aren't really required anyway.

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post #32 of 42 (permalink) Old 01-09-2020, 11:09 PM
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I'm not sure what it is with the obsession of comparing it to Intel's absolutely awful offerings.
What woukd you consider fair comparison for this chip from Intel that isn't awful?

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I like it. I like it a lot. If I was still making bank like I did at my last job I'd buy one just for chips & giggles.

I wonder who will be the first to stuff one into an SFF build.

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post #34 of 42 (permalink) Old 01-10-2020, 02:43 AM - Thread Starter
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Isn't the 7702P a 128 thread CPU? How is it worse in any regard than the W-3175X?
Slower clock speeds makes a big difference at the end result. Single core performance, the W-3175X has a big edge. So overall multi core performance they end up being the same basically.
It is like a sport car trying to drive fast over a bumpy off road vs a 4x4 jeep. It might be fast, but you are hindering it quite a bit.


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Zip the entire contents of a drive and screen shot the completion time for e-peen points should be the first thing on your list follwed by seeing how long a fully loaded turn on Civilization takes.

Anything else I can think of seems like it would be a hassle or require actually doing work, so you should probably stop there.
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It is like a sport car trying to drive fast over a bumpy off road vs a 4x4 jeep. It might be fast, but you are hindering it quite a bit.
Surprisingly unorthodox there, guy, to just use a car analogy. Groundbreaking stuff.

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Slower clock speeds makes a big difference at the end result. Single core performance, the W-3175X has a big edge. So overall multi core performance they end up being the same basically.
It is like a sport car trying to drive fast over a bumpy off road vs a 4x4 jeep. It might be fast, but you are hindering it quite a bit.
Oh yea. Was informed by KCD. But by that point, should Xeon be a comparative and not a enthusiast chip?

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Oh yea. Was informed by KCD. But by that point, should Xeon be a comparative and not a enthusiast chip?
Why shouldn't it?

You compare trucks to trucks and sedans to sedans and suv to suv. A suv doesn't become a sedan just because it is not as tall as another suv and a truck doesn't turn into a suv if it can move faster than a regular truck.

The xeons are enterprise chips. Even it doesn't have as many cores, if it can pull the same performance, than it is still valid.


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Absolutely. I'd love to get my hands on one of these. It's actually reached the point where RAM has become the limiting factor - with 128 threads, 256GB is simply not enough. Even if I turned off SMT, 4GB/core is just not enough for what I do now. Short of some (extremely expensive) server kit, the only real option now is RAID0'ing four NVMe drives together and using them for swap, which is obviously a far from perfect solution - although even if they wore out and needed replacing inside a year (unlikely) it would still cost a lot less than a server crammed full of 2-4TB of RAM.
Sadly a swap file will still be slow, even with RAIDed SSD's. Even if the sequential read/writes come close to being 50% of RAM you will never achieve the same performance with random reads and writes, which is why RAM is indespensible. But you are right, 2TB RAM is bloody expensive. The guys I know who work in DNA sequencing always complain about RAM prices, despite RAM being really cheap.

I did forget to add encoding as steaming services also need all the power they can get. Doesn't sound exciting but Youtube, Netflix, Iqiyi (largest Chinese steaming site) use enormous racks and these chips would serve them well.

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