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Man I'm glad I picked up a 5700 for $279 months ago because the recent releases from AMD and Nvidia have been a study in who can do the least.
pretty sure its gonna stay like this until ~ new console drop time.

They're just squeezing every last drop they can outta current gen before these new consoles re-define the bar yet again. 2060 perf will be $100-$150 level by NV4x series. N depending on when 3x series drops, it could be rather underwhelming as well. Might be time for another Titan.

IE: 7nm cores just big enough to keep people from rioting.

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Just watch the 3060 will launch at $500/$600FE.
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Just watch the 3060 will launch at $500/$600FE.
It depends. G6 should cost less. Hopefully, 7nm is not too expensive. We will not get GTX970 but we can still get GTX 1070 level of performance/price with 7nm. Hopefully no Turing.

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pretty sure its gonna stay like this until ~ new console drop time.

They're just squeezing every last drop they can outta current gen before these new consoles re-define the bar yet again. 2060 perf will be $100-$150 level by NV4x series. N depending on when 3x series drops, it could be rather underwhelming as well. Might be time for another Titan.

IE: 7nm cores just big enough to keep people from rioting.
Seems like the price gouging of the mining days in stuck in stone.



Wouldn't it be nice if Nvidia could simply match the FPS of AMD with these "new cards"? Drivers drivers drivers. I'm guessing it is quite a bit harder for game devs\AMD to make GPU drivers work then their CPU's? It's funny when you have people scrambling on oh saying things like "features" for nvidia. Just like politicians, they could have a point if they looked in the right place. Drivers. RT is ... pointless atm

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Just watch the 3060 will launch at $500/$600FE.
the card that hangs with the consoles sells @ console prices?

It's plausible, but that'll be 70, not 60. 670 was $400 MSRP, that's the last mid range card I've purchased.

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Seems like the price gouging of the mining days in stuck in stone.



Wouldn't it be nice if Nvidia could simply match the FPS of AMD with these "new cards"? Drivers drivers drivers. I'm guessing it is quite a bit harder for game devs\AMD to make GPU drivers work then their CPU's? It's funny when you have people scrambling on oh saying things like "features" for nvidia. Just like politicians, they could have a point if they looked in the right place. Drivers. RT is ... pointless atm
Like you pointed out nVidia cards could match the price of AMD cards if they removed many of their hardware/software features. Tensor cores and RT cores aren't useless and definitely the cause for the increase.

Instead we have AMD charging $400 for a $250 card to match nVidia pricing with half the feature set. It's simple gamers need to stop buying video cards from both companies and we'll see AMD correctly price their hardware and maybe nVidia will release an actual gaming architecture.

Just look at their rendering performanc e: https://techgage.com/article/nvidia-...ray-dimension/

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That all said, in these particular workloads, AMD would struggle even if it were supported. With RT and Tensor cores on tap, NVIDIA’s RTX series is seriously powerful for design work when implemented properly. In solutions like Blender, you must enable OptiX acceleration separately, whereas in Arnold, for example, RT cores are used by default. That’s what we’d call a perfect implementation. We have a feeling once AMD releases GPUs with a similar feature set, some developers might feel more compelled to branch their support.
Arnold used to run horribly on Geforce but now with the latest Arnold version and Studio Drivers the performance of Geforce cards now match Quadro cards.

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Like you pointed out nVidia cards could match the price of AMD cards if they removed many of their hardware/software features. Tensor cores and RT cores aren't useless and definitely the cause for the increase.

Instead we have AMD charging $400 for a $250 card to match nVidia pricing with half the feature set. It's simple gamers need to stop buying video cards from both companies and we'll see AMD correctly price their hardware and maybe nVidia will release an actual gaming architecture.

Just look at their rendering performanc e: https://techgage.com/article/nvidia-...ray-dimension/



Arnold used to run horribly on Geforce but now with the latest Arnold version and Studio Drivers the performance of Geforce cards now match Quadro cards.
Like you well know the "features" on the 2060 are not the same as the "features on the 2080/ti. The card simply doesn't have the power to utilize them well. It's much like having 8gb ram on a rx 570...it doesn't do all that much. As for rendering performance AMD got crapped on for years for having better rendering than Nvidia at the cost of fps. Now they have focused on fps and the script is being flipped.
So no we don't have AMD charging 400 for a 250 card while Nvidia's 400 is justifiable, neither is.

Maybe if you could point out on the doll where AMD touched you we could work on resolving whatever your hatred for them is.
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hopefully this causes the rest of the cards to drop too, there seems to be a very large following in the extreme small form factor market for these rtx 2060, because the performance is decent and the power consumption is decently low. This price cut might get more people into it or help tilt people towards upgrading.

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is single slot really just out of the question now? I mean, AMD was doing it during 5 & 6 series.

why they matter - low end folks trying to stick cards into OEMs. they'd also sell like hot cakes in the SFF scene. hell, high end too, they'd just need to ship with blocks & mini-DP. (sound familiar?)

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is single slot really just out of the question now? I mean, AMD was doing it during 5 & 6 series.



why they matter - low end folks trying to stick cards into OEMs. they'd also sell like hot cakes in the SFF scene. hell, high end too, they'd just need to ship with blocks & mini-DP. (sound familiar?)


Single slot of ssf? Isn't length usually a bigger concern? Unless your talking water cooled.

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