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[Various]5600 XT Review Thread

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Unless you're an AMD super fan, I don't really know why you would buy it over a RTX 2060 series or discounted RX 5700. Nvidia cannibalized the GTX 1660 Ti completely with $250ish GTX 1660 Super already so the only argument over $280 price-points is ray tracing at this point.

OpenCL is still broken with Navi apparently as well. That eliminates all uses other than gaming more or less (no RTX, no CUDA, unreliable OpenCL).


Also Linux review site Phoronix states the "VBIOS update" is buggy too https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pa...00xt-amd&num=1


edit: Euro pricing is even worse,
~€300 RX 5600 XT PULSE https://www.mindfactory.de/product_i...-_1346220.html
~€300 RX 5600 XT Red Dragon https://www.mindfactory.de/product_i...-_1346452.html


Same RX 5700 is about 30 Euro more
https://www.mindfactory.de/product_i...F_1324348.html
https://www.mindfactory.de/product_i...-_1328401.html


edit 2: it's much better at OCUK though
£254.99 RX 5600 XT PULSE https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sapph...gx-396-sp.html
£259.99 RX 5600 XT Dual Fan (Red Dragon?) https://www.overclockers.co.uk/power...gx-19l-pc.html

£319.99 RX 5700 Gaming OC https://www.overclockers.co.uk/gigab...gx-1bk-gi.html
£349.99 RX 5700 PULSE https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sapph...gx-38y-sp.html

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Quote: Originally Posted by AlphaC View Post
Unless you're an AMD super fan, I don't really know why you would buy it over a RTX 2060 series or discounted RX 5700. Nvidia cannibalized the GTX 1660 Ti completely with $250ish GTX 1660 Super already so the only argument over $280 price-points is ray tracing at this point.

OpenCL is still broken with Navi apparently as well. That eliminates all uses other than gaming more or less (no RTX, no CUDA, unreliable OpenCL).
True, even though I skew towards AMD, it's the same price as the RTX 2060 which has better OpenCL support and gulp RT. I'm also hearing some rumblings of broken DX9 gaming on Navi? So I would go Nvidia unfortunately on this one. Mind you the RTX 2060 KO is hard to find and gouging is apparent according to JayZ (not interested in either card so I did not bother to check myself) so one might be forced to go AMD on this one regardless at least for the short term.

One silver lining, it seems while the KO is locked down, the 5600 XT still has lots of headroom for overclocking which would put it on top and it seems the KO moniker might be better suited for AMD this time around if you're looking for pure fps.

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True, even though I skew towards AMD, it's the same price as the RTX 2060 which has better OpenCL support and gulp RT. I'm also hearing some rumblings of broken DX9 gaming on Navi? So I would go Nvidia unfortunately on this one. Mind you the RTX 2060 KO is hard to find and gouging is apparent according to JayZ (not interested in either card so I did not bother to check myself) so one might be forced to go AMD on this one regardless at least for the short term.

One silver lining, it seems while the KO is locked down, the 5600 XT still has lots of headroom for overclocking which would put it on top and it seems the KO moniker might be better suited for AMD this time around if you're looking for pure fps.
Some DX9 and older titles are indeed broken on Navi, at least on my system.
The GPU goes into a low power state of some sort, GPU clocks won't break 100mhz when this happens.

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The decisions by AMD are idiotic, their decisions on die size are really bad, when you're the only one on 7nm process you should take advantage of it.
They pushed a BIOS for the 5600 that makes it consume 40% more power, while only getting 10% performance.

Instead of pushing silicon clocks/voltages to the limit, which is 50W extra for 10% performance, they could just do these simple steps:

1) Make Navi10 a slightly bigger die (with 320bit bus if possible) for your "mid" range and sell it as the 5800 for 500-550$ with high clocks and everything, and use the defective Navi10 dies for a 5700XT and 5700(256bit) sell them around 350-450$ with clocks at efficiency sweet spot. This would keep the power consumption of 5700xt below 200W and the 5700 below 170W.

2)Use the same tactic for Navi 14 192bits bus for 250-300$ as 5600XT and use the cutdown as a 5600 and 5500XT(128bit bus) in the 150-200$ range, keep clocks on all of these at the sweet spot for efficiency. Sell the cutdown dies to OEMs as 70W versions

3)Rebrand the 570/580 as a 5500/5400 or something, get rid of stock????

4)Keep selling the 560/460 on 14nm/12nm, or whatever that chip is called these days for <120$ name it 5300.

5)Later releasing your top-tier card as best you can do


Staying on the clock/voltage efficiency sweet spot on every level. Letting AIB partners release the higher clocked versions. Using old process tech for budget cards. Follow nvidia tactics, simply.

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Not really, at least it's on par with GTX 1660 Super pricing ; GTX 1660 Super doesn't have RTX either and comes with 6GB GDDR6

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