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are you saying you're being objective? If yes that's ironic you don't see me going around on nvidia threads saying driver are bad and telling the same story repeatedly. kiss teeth please if you were objective why are you telling the same story in this thread? What's your goal here? To inform or mislead.
This is what, my 2nd post pointing out AMD's drivers?

It's clear you just don't want to believe anything negative about your favorite company so we'll just leave it at that.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comment...0_super_story/

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This is what, my 2nd post pointing out AMD's drivers?

It's clear you just don't want to believe anything negative about your favorite company so we'll just leave it at that.
Atleast I can admit they're my favourite company no shame in that, but playing secret fanboy/girl is another thing all together. You have yourself a green day!

People are people some will change some won't.

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Non-bias here. We never get cases to fix AMD drivers in linux systems. It's always Nvidia drivers causing kernel corruption and other problems. We had one Nvidia driver so bad that the system would not get past the sign on screen until you used the terminal and blacklisted the driver.


So no, AMD drivers aren't worse than Nvidia's in some cases. In windows we have 0 investigations open right now for AMD driver issues and half a dozen for Nvidia. Admittedly we sell a ton more Nvidia systems than AMD systems, however, if their drivers were as bad as some people claim we'd have a lot more investigations on them

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Non-bias here. We never get cases to fix AMD drivers in linux systems. It's always Nvidia drivers causing kernel corruption and other problems. We had one Nvidia driver so bad that the system would not get past the sign on screen until you used the terminal and blacklisted the driver.


So no, AMD drivers aren't worse than Nvidia's in some cases. In windows we have 0 investigations open right now for AMD driver issues and half a dozen for Nvidia. Admittedly we sell a ton more Nvidia systems than AMD systems, however, if their drivers were as bad as some people claim we'd have a lot more investigations on them
That's because we don't use AMD drivers we use the open source Mesa drivers. If you use amdgpu-pro or ROCm you'll run into a ton of problems.

Also AMD's proprietary drivers are restricted to Ubuntu, RHEL/CentOS and SLES while nVidia's proprietary drivers can be installed on any distro.

Edit: nVidia drivers don't cause kernel corruption. The kernel fails to load them after a kernel update.

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Oh man even with an OC some of these games are under 100fps @ 1080p. I was thinking I might go 5600 XT up front to save some dough and go with a 3080 later but that's not looking like such a hot option anymore.

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RX Vega 56 is the best sub $300 card right now.

Negatory on that. That spot is reserved for the 1080. Can be had for roughly $270 at the moment.

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Negatory on that. That spot is reserved for the 1080. Can be had for roughly $270 at the moment.
I'm referring to a brand new card for $250 with a three year warranty.

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This is what, my 2nd post pointing out AMD's drivers?

It's clear you just don't want to believe anything negative about your favorite company so we'll just leave it at that.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comment...0_super_story/
I haven't really had any driver problems with my 5700XT, so I will throw that in the ring here.

That being said, finding stable drivers for my VII at first was a flaming hellscape of shattered dreams and BSODs. Very frustrating. Based on my experience, it seems like AMD's drivers are sensitive to "unusual" system configs (multiple monitors, VR headsets, that sort of thing), while Nvidia's drivers seem to "Just Werk^TM." I do remember, with much irritation, several driver sets in the past that Nvidia has shat out that were total garbage, though; it's just been my experience that Nvidia's drivers are more idiot-proof in general and require far less tweaking.

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I haven't really had any driver problems with my 5700XT, so I will throw that in the ring here.

That being said, finding stable drivers for my VII at first was a flaming hellscape of shattered dreams and BSODs. Very frustrating. Based on my experience, it seems like AMD's drivers are sensitive to "unusual" system configs (multiple monitors, VR headsets, that sort of thing), while Nvidia's drivers seem to "Just Werk^TM." I do remember, with much irritation, several driver sets in the past that Nvidia has shat out that were total garbage, though; it's just been my experience that Nvidia's drivers are more idiot-proof in general and require far less tweaking.

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I haven't had any major issues that would cause a BSOD since I switched back to AMD starting with the Vega 64 LC at launch to the Radeon VII at launch. I had some games crash with the Vega 64 but AMD was quick to resolve them.

My only complaint with the Radeon VII is the overclocking problem starting with 19.8.1. The other thing that bugs me is with the power consumption difference between 19.7.1 compared to older drivers. I don't think AMD is being transparent about the changes they've made.

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I haven't had any major issues that would cause a BSOD since I switched back to AMD starting with the Vega 64 LC at launch to the Radeon VII at launch. I had some games crash with the Vega 64 but AMD was quick to resolve them.

My only complaint with the Radeon VII is the overclocking problem starting with 19.8.1. The other thing that bugs me is with the power consumption difference between 19.7.1 compared to older drivers. I don't think AMD is being transparent about the changes they've made.
That's why I think that AMD's drivers are more sensitive to configurations. Some peeps with the VII didn't have any major issues at all, some (like myself) had a miserable time at first. On the flipside, my 5700XT has been rock solid (more solid than my VII was), while some others have had a bad time. Probably comes down to AMD having very little budget to make drivers in comparison to Nvidia.

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