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[Forbes] Intel Lays Out Strategy For AI: It’s Habana

Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/moorins.../#a2690c04dd30

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Last month, Intel announced that it would acquire Israeli AI chip startup Habana Labs for $2B. At the time, I opined that this probably spelled the end for chips from the 2016 Nervana acquisition. Intel planned to bring out both the inference and the training versions of Nervana’s second attempt to out-perform NVIDIA by the end of 2019. Apparently, something ugly happened on the way to the data center. Now, as expected, Intel has announced that Nervana will be no more. The company will support the NNP-I inference chip for previously committed customers, but will cease all development on the NNP-T AI training design.

Does Intel really need yet another architecture?

Apparently, Intel received feedback from its engineers and from large customers that the second Nervana designs, code-named Spring Hill and Spring Crest, just didn’t pass muster for these high-performance workloads. I suspect these customers pointed to Habana as the preferred platform that can compete with NVIDIA. Of special interest to Intel was probably the fact that the Habana Gaudi chip has an on-die 100Gb Ethernet fabric that supports RDMA over Converged Ethernet (ROCE). Since a Mellanox NIC with ROCE can cost well over $1000 per card, Intel will now have a chip that can scale at low cost to thousands of nodes to handle the emerging very large neural network models used in applications such as natural language processing. Note that Mellanox is being acquired by NVIDIA for $6.8B.
This is getting interesting, with Intel's software team and Habana's hardware they might actually be able to compete with nVidia.

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It would be funny if Intel had an AI voice assistant like Siri or Cortana... and they named it Habana.

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Habana what? Habana big bank account now. Lol.

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Intel needs to get their stuff together ASAP with their AI. This is going to be a HUGE market, and they cant afford to get behind. ALL of our CPUs are going to end up with a small AI chip inside them for specific operations. Seriously ALL OF THEM. Its like if we nailed down a small quantum processor that we could add into our CPUs the potential we would have. Spacial mapping , telemetry, AR... tons of logic for physics can be done sooo much better with AI circuits. Granted, i probably dont understand anything about this, i do grasp the market that this will effect. In less than 5 years i bet every phone will have an embedded AI chip on it. At that time, Raspbery PI's will too. Consumer Desktop CPUs will probably start as well by then. Are we going to see MASSIVE improvements in FPS in games, no... but some features might become more common because they can be implemented with little cost.



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Quote: Originally Posted by Mrzev View Post
Intel needs to get their stuff together ASAP with their AI. This is going to be a HUGE market, and they cant afford to get behind. ALL of our CPUs are going to end up with a small AI chip inside them for specific operations. Seriously ALL OF THEM. Its like if we nailed down a small quantum processor that we could add into our CPUs the potential we would have. Spacial mapping , telemetry, AR... tons of logic for physics can be done sooo much better with AI circuits. Granted, i probably dont understand anything about this, i do grasp the market that this will effect. In less than 5 years i bet every phone will have an embedded AI chip on it. At that time, Raspbery PI's will too. Consumer Desktop CPUs will probably start as well by then. Are we going to see MASSIVE improvements in FPS in games, no... but some features might become more common because they can be implemented with little cost.
With all the data collection capabilities of an embedded AI chip, I'm shocked Intel hasn't been on the bleeding edge for a long time.


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Quote: Originally Posted by Mrzev View Post
Intel needs to get their stuff together ASAP with their AI. This is going to be a HUGE market, and they cant afford to get behind. ALL of our CPUs are going to end up with a small AI chip inside them for specific operations. Seriously ALL OF THEM. Its like if we nailed down a small quantum processor that we could add into our CPUs the potential we would have. Spacial mapping , telemetry, AR... tons of logic for physics can be done sooo much better with AI circuits. Granted, i probably dont understand anything about this, i do grasp the market that this will effect. In less than 5 years i bet every phone will have an embedded AI chip on it. At that time, Raspbery PI's will too. Consumer Desktop CPUs will probably start as well by then. Are we going to see MASSIVE improvements in FPS in games, no... but some features might become more common because they can be implemented with little cost.
I'm shocked people don't realize, pretty much every phone and every RTX card has dedicated AI hardware. With nVidia's Tensor cores they do massively improve FPS in games but with a slight cost of image quality. nVidia was able to render an entire virtual world with their tensor cores.


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Habana what? Habana big bank account now. Lol.
intel alone is up $20 in 6 months.

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intel alone is up $20 in 6 months.
Them's small gains. Where the real bankroll comes from is dividends + buy and hold long term. Even if the share price goes to $0 on a stock you've held for years you can still come out obscenely wealthy on the end of it. Of course you wouldn't want for that, and it's definitely a counter intuitive concept. But when you see how the money works out it's like a lightbulb going off.

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