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post #41 of 45 (permalink) Old 02-26-2020, 02:17 PM
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I've never seen torque be measured in PSI. Usually I see lb/ft or N*m. Did they mean to measure clamping force? In that case, couldn't the same screws be used and only the springs be replaced? Torque is mainly used to prevent screws from loosening over time, not for measuring clamping force. At least, not with screws these small and weak. If we were talking wheel studs it'd be a little different.
Yeah psi is pressure (usually air). Torque is nm. I'm no expert ..
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Pressure is the force the molecules of something are exerting external to them.

And torque is the measure of force being applied to an object, you could also call it the amount of twist on something relative to its center line. We have a couple of different metrics to measure it. My last truck had something like ~700 Lb-Ft of torque.

I'm no expert either.

And you can find plastic washers at most mom n pop hardware stores. I found them way out in the boonies for a project so it's more than likely you can find them local wherever you happen to live.

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I tried the washer mod and I ended up with higher temperatures. Maybe it was the 5 year old tube of Noctua thermal paste I used. Anyway, I now have an Arctic accelero III on the card, which was a ton of work but has dropped temperatures quite a bit. If any reference owner is interested in doing the same, buckle up; memory temps will be tricky to tame. I had to buy some 20x20x0.8mm copper shims to act as psuedo "heat pipes" because the ram modules are so close to the die that you cant really put any heatsinks on them directly without bumping into the accellero.

Before the shims the memory hit 88c stock and 100c when overclocked. Post shimming memory is 80c stock, 88c overclocked(1950core/1850mem) which is about 2c higher than with the blower cooler at 2400rpm. Testing methodology was a full run of the 3Dmark Firestrike Extreme stress test which takes about half an hour and pushed temps higher than any game I've played. This is with the Reference XT bios flashed and the fans pegged at 2050rpm(full speed), BTW.
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ASRock did this with their high end B350 & X370 Fatal1ty ITX boards. Ended up shipping boards with an incredibly thick thermal pad to cover up their mistake. And then they turned around and had the guts to ask customers to pay $50 + shipping fees both ways to have it corrected.

Then a short while later ASRock shipped boards with labelling indicating they were Ryzen 2000 compatible but they actually had an older non-compatible BIOS installed; they wanted customers to pay $50 + shipping to have the correct BIOS module installed in the removable chip socket. Other companies would have shipped you out the part to correct the issue along with an apology.

And this was in recent memory. Despicable is the only word that comes to mind about it.


This sort of thing easily happens when a manager feels pressured to meet a quota or obligation. I wouldn't push blame on the engineers that test & verify products because nobody is going to put their stamp of approval on a product that's going to get a bunch of back lash from customers. Or it could have just been up to human error. Sometimes it's hard to tell with this type of issue.
Makes me want to go back and watch the Dilbert tv show. Or buy a newspaper.

You could just flip your computer upside down to give it proper mounting pressure according to HUB. Or upside right if you're an AUSIE .

The design only seems to make a bit of sense the way ref cards position the blower vapor chamber. (Novice speculation)

Like Skupples said, use plastic washers. Think of it like this, your screw is to long, the washer shortens the screw.

Btw this interesting, not to sure if I understand it all.

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and your local ace should have them in the screw isle, in the box sliders. big box typically doesn't go small enough for anything relating to PC, except for TORX/allen/hex kits.

minor side thought & warning. Those 30 piece screw driver kits on amazon are absolute trash. they're made outta ledplastic or something. They're so soft that you're gonna strip the tip unless you use the perfect fitting driver.

good news is, Dewalt's 2020 revision of the (black) impact bit set is spot on.

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