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correct. maintaining 60 isn't a huge issue in 90% of your catalog. still not good enough 3440x1440p120+ is a nice middle ground to wait on for now. i no longer feel weird missing the extra vert. n concessions to keep 120 are minimal. n PPI with 34 inch 4K is similar.

we need something to properly drive the LGCX48 @ the end of the year. the world is ready for 4K120.

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I'd toss some coin at this card. Been running 4K on my 980s since 2014, but every generation of games I have to keep lowering settings to keep everything playable. But end of 2020? Ugh such a long wait. We'll see if NVIDIA drop anything.
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Performance per watt? Sounds like this is being optimised for mobile and laptops over discrete desktop GPU's.

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Well they may be aiming at the top as they did before but in the end it always turned out they were aiming at the current top end not the one that will be in a year or two when they actually launch
Navi and consoles should have been out by now, but for what ever reasons they are delaying the consoles to use a more refined version of Navi.

They do indeed need to compete in the top end and at least high end market as so far they are on the low to barely mid range in terms of performance. Price wise they are at high end and Nvidia at crazy end.

Yes efficiency is big for CPUs and GPUs, the more efficient the less heat and the more performance they can pack into it. The dies are tiny and power density high at this point, sure you can make a gigantic die with 1kW but that's not economical to manufacture at all. As efficiency goes up so does performance hand in hand. It's why NV gained such a lead over AMD on GPUs after their hot and loud grill series, they made more and more efficient architectures while AMD got stuck with a hot and loud GCN for ages, was performant at first but not competitive as it got older and NV sailed past it big time.

These sort of marketing slides and claims... believe it when I have it in my hands, till then it's like asking the sky for rain. May happen, may not.
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Well they may be aiming at the top as they did before but in the end it always turned out they were aiming at the current top end not the one that will be in a year or two when they actually launch
Navi and consoles should have been out by now, but for what ever reasons they are delaying the consoles to use a more refined version of Navi.

They do indeed need to compete in the top end and at least high end market as so far they are on the low to barely mid range in terms of performance. Price wise they are at high end and Nvidia at crazy end.

Yes efficiency is big for CPUs and GPUs, the more efficient the less heat and the more performance they can pack into it. The dies are tiny and power density high at this point, sure you can make a gigantic die with 1kW but that's not economical to manufacture at all. As efficiency goes up so does performance hand in hand. It's why NV gained such a lead over AMD on GPUs after their hot and loud grill series, they made more and more efficient architectures while AMD got stuck with a hot and loud GCN for ages, was performant at first but not competitive as it got older and NV sailed past it big time.

These sort of marketing slides and claims... believe it when I have it in my hands, till then it's like asking the sky for rain. May happen, may not.
should be out by now? Consoles always release just in time for the xmas buying season. Can't think of a console that didn't.


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"forgetting" or pinching pennies by using existing stock?

still exited to see something. 5700XT is a good tease. Ready to see it on steroids.

n hopefully that "Shared architecture" stuff actually translates to something this time around.
What I'm most excited to see is how well they will do ray and path tracing. One of nVidia's bottlenecks, in my view, is denoising. I'm not sure if this is the correct terminology for the specific artifacts I'm talking about, but I mean the temporal noise for moving objects.

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Performance per watt? Sounds like this is being optimised for mobile and laptops over discrete desktop GPU's.
Not really. The 5700XT is a 250W card. The VII is a 300W card. to get substantial performance improvement above these cards you need performance per watt improvements. There already power draw limited as it is.

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This news is huge. Why has this thread only got 17 replies? In our glory days it'd be in excess of 200.

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This news is huge. Why has this thread only got 17 replies? In our glory days it'd be in excess of 200.
Maybe we have just collectively learned to temper expectations when it comes to this type of announcements.

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