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Of course they will be up to about mid-way through 2021. Then you will be able to build a comparable PC for less.
Still can't build a comparable PC to an Xbox One X for less, especially not for the $3-400 you can get them new for now.

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Still can't build a comparable PC to an Xbox One X for less, especially not for the $3-400 you can get them new for now.
from: https://www.techradar.com/reviews/xbox-one-x

'On the CPU side, the Xbox One X is running a custom chip with eight Jaguar CPU cores clocked at 2.3GHz. That’s a 76% increase compared to the CPU inside the original Xbox One and Xbox One S, but probably only puts it in the ballpark of a current-gen Intel Core i3 processor (remember, however, that these numbers don’t translate to PCs very well).'

'its GPU has 36 compute units at 911Mhz that work in tandem with a 2.1GHz CPU and 8GB of GDDR5 memory. That memory runs into a bit of a bottleneck at the buffer, which is limited to 218GB/s, but it still puts out around 4 Tflops of performance. '

None of that is particularly impressive and ebay has new Dell computers for cheaper and refurbished Dells for less than half the price of a new Xbox One X.

The APU perf. of the Xbox One X isn't even equivalent to a Radeon Rx 590 or a GeForce GTS 1660 according to:
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-spec...ne-x-gpu.c2977

I can get a GeForce GTS 1660 for $220 and it'll be 11% faster.
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Of course they will be up to about mid-way through 2021. Then you will be able to build a comparable PC for less.
Still can't build a comparable PC to an Xbox One X for less, especially not for the $3-400 you can get them new for now.
The Xbox One X is terrible at everything though. Bad HDD, bad CPU, slow I/O. Only good thing is the GPU which is equivalent to a RX580. You can barely find a CPU that weak on the market and you can build a much better 1080/60 machine than a half-assed 4K/30 machine at probably a slightly higher cost.

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2080 performance for $400 is not enough to make me want to buy one. I already have 2080ti level gaming performance on my TV for $200 with my Shield Pro. This generation doesn't seem any different from the last generations of consoles, if you have a console it is an awesome upgrade.


I might end up getting a PS5 if Sony does something interesting with PSVR.

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Beats what I've got. Especially with the 1/10 of 1 core using asset streaming asic/os. That is going to squash cpu performance on pc in the games where it is heavily used. I would love to see MS do that for Windows, but they have consoles to sell.

I wonder what the monthly fee will be to play steam games on it?

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This sounds like PS3 all over again. They are going to either position this with a sky high price or its going to eat their bottom line trying to sell this at $500.
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Can't see 2080 rtx performance at 500.us no one would pc game anymore
899.99 or 999.99 sound better ?
Series X will retail for $100 more than PS5, and PS5 will probably launch at $399 (or $499 if current leadership have really lost their minds).

PC GPU pricing has been nothing but insane ever since Crypto hit and AMD exited the high end market.
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Some of the more important points I heard, at least in terms of what kind of hardware we will need on PC to keep up:

10GBs Vram, 3.5GBs CPU ram and 2.5GBs OS ram

SSD speed is 2.4GB/s meanig PCIe3 based SSDs can keep up, no need to get PCIe4.

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The Xbox One X is terrible at everything though. Bad HDD, bad CPU, slow I/O. Only good thing is the GPU which is equivalent to a RX580. You can barely find a CPU that weak on the market and you can build a much better 1080/60 machine than a half-assed 4K/30 machine at probably a slightly higher cost.
Are you guys delusional? Just getting a pc built with new parts with a 580 class gpu for $400-450 even if you pirate windows and use a $50 cpu and motherboard is a challenge, once you factor in plenty of stores are selling the X for $300 bundled with a new game and it's unbeatable. The One and PS4 weren't great values for a while, but current X prices and assuming the Series X will be <$600 are fantastic deals for the performance.

Inb4 "muh xbox live subscription cost"

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As someone with a Samsung Q90R, I've been waiting for something to truly show off the TV. The Series X may be it. The Xbox One X looks great on games like Forza 7 and Horizon 4, but I want more.

Day 1 purchase for me. Even if it's $1k, I'd still purchase it. It's a very powerful machine.



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