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post #11 of 173 (permalink) Old 05-07-2020, 08:20 AM
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I didn't even think about this being an "officially support" thing like x370 was for the 3000 series. Good chance it is fear mongering click bait tactics like it was last time.

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If with Ryzen 3000, then better off waiting for Ryzen 5000 with DDR5.

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Quote: Originally Posted by mothergoose729 View Post
This should really be in rumors IMO until confirmed by AMD. This whole article seems to be based on one slide of marketing materials. If the CPUs are electrically compatible with past sockets, then it should be possible to support them with a bios update.
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Q: What about (X pre-500 Series chipset)?
A: AMD has no plans to introduce “Zen 3” architecture support for older chipsets. While we wish could enable full support for every processor on every chipset, the flash memory chips that store BIOS settings and support have capacity limitations. Given these limitations, and the unprecedented longevity of the AM4 socket, there will inevitably be a time and place where a transition to free up space is necessary—the AMD 500 Series chipsets are that time.
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Quote: Originally Posted by looniam View Post
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straight from the horse's mouth.

Most X470s have 256 Mb Flash ROM. Not sure about the X570s. If the latter have same amount, then they got to have another reason or reasons.

EDIT: I just checked, the X470 Pro and the X570 Pro have same amount of ROM capacity.

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Well AMD is talking about official support. There is nothing stopping the mobo manufacturers, with boards that have the capacity, from offering a BIOS update that allows you to run the 4000 series processor.

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Quote: Originally Posted by rdr09 View Post
Most X470s have 256 Mb Flash ROM. Not sure about the X570s. If the latter have same amount, then they got to have another reason or reasons.

EDIT: I just checked, the X470 Pro and the X570 Pro have same amount of ROM capacity.
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What a joke. Who cares is the physical socket is the same if you change the chipset requirements.

Everyone knew Ryzen wouldn't run on AM4 mobos from before Ryzen was released. But ever since Ryzen was released, AMD has been touting AM4 compatibility until 2021.

It seems that AMD will just allow one CPU upgrade per chipset even when successive chipset are the same physical dies. If it is really just from ROM size limitations, they should be a little more aggressive in getting mobo manufacturers to release new BIOSs for mobos with 256 Mbit ROMs.

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What a joke. Who cares is the physical socket is the same if you change the chipset requirements.

Everyone knew Ryzen wouldn't run on AM4 mobos from before Ryzen was released. But ever since Ryzen was released, AMD has been touting AM4 compatibility until 2021.

It seems that AMD will just allow one CPU upgrade per chipset even when successive chipset are the same physical dies. If it is really just from ROM size limitations, they should be a little more aggressive in getting mobo manufacturers to release new BIOSs for mobos with 256 Mbit ROMs.

Looking at my system, upgrading from a 2700X to any 3000 series CPU isn't worth it, for gaming at least.
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straight from the horse's mouth.
Thanks, I didn't want to believe

I was planning on getting a ryzen 4000 series processor in 2021, but that was predicated on it being a drop in upgrade with my current board. Now that I am looking at a platform upgrade, I think I'll give intel a little more time to get their stuff together and see what they would have to offer.
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They did it with threadripper, so the trend setting is already there. I miss when the old days when we had third party chipsets less conflict of interest.
I guess AMD is going the Intel route.

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