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post #1 of 173 (permalink) Old 05-07-2020, 06:45 AM - Thread Starter
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[PCGamer] Zen 3 will only be compatible with 5xx-series motherboards

https://www.pcgamer.com/amd-ryzen-40...compatibility/

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AMD Ryzen 4000 CPUs based on the Zen 3 processor architecture will only be compatible with 500-series AM4 motherboards, and any further backwards compatibility can therefore do one. Right now that means just the boards running the X570 chipset, but come June 16 (or thereabouts) AMD's new budget chipset, the B550, will be available in all its PCIe Gen4-toting glory.


Well there goes my plan to just buy a Zen 3 CPU and slot it in my b450 Tomahawk :/

This is big news. A terrible surprise. They are already pulling an Intel now?!



No Zen 3 support for 4xx series motherboards as of now.
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This doesn't really bother me, but I know there are people who are still upset that AMD moved away from Socket 1.


I am more interested in how it's going to perform for people who aren't content creators.

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Yup, kinda bad news

Well seems I'll have to stick to a 3800X in the future and that's it until DDR5

I think there will be available very good B550 options anyway at a reasonable price this time, all manufacturers finally joined the AMD train again like in the mighty end of 90s early 2000s

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Didn't this happen with last ryzen release except it was about 300 series motherboards and they changed it back to if vendor supports it with bios?

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It has to be electrically compatible on the socket, and we know an older CPU will slot into the newer chipset. That means the CPU should be perfectly compatible, only thing locking it out would be a bios or other firmware. That seems pretty bad to me, just like Intel does.
Hopefully someone can hack the platform to make it work just like 9k series CPUs on Z170.

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For the little I know X470 is just a shrinked X370, the only problem is the 16mb bios rom on some X470 motherboards....they had to cut off some am4 cpus to save space for the new ones...

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This should really be in rumors IMO until confirmed by AMD. This whole article seems to be based on one slide of marketing materials. If the CPUs are electrically compatible with past sockets, then it should be possible to support them with a bios update.
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To be fair if this is true it's not a big deal. It's not that often AMD require socket changes for their cpu's.
My only concern is that the 500 series chipsets are mature this time around.
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It was the same for X370/B350 for Zen2. It will be up to MB vendors to update. They technically want to sell new MB with new AMD CPUs. They have gotten used to this from Intel.

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Quote: Originally Posted by mothergoose729 View Post
This should really be in rumors IMO until confirmed by AMD. This whole article seems to be based on one slide of marketing materials. If the CPUs are electrically compatible with past sockets, then it should be possible to support them with a bios update.
Exactly. The slide also mentions 'AM4 socket ready for 3rd Gen Ryzen' & also shows that x370 is does not supports 3000 Series CPUs.


To me it seems like X370 & X470 will support Zen 3.

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