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Probably the same reason Intel has fabs in Arizona? Including Intel's new fab42 that will be for their top of the line 7nm node. I believe this would be Intel's 4th fab in Arizona alone. They must be doing something right in the state to attract the fabs from these companies.

Tax breaks immediately come to mind.
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and direct from the tap source of cheap labor?
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TSMC will be a prey under US law and could be even requisitioned depending on the mood of the US President.
I wonder how much pressure they have received to obey to such a blackmail...
In case you didn't notice, Taiwan is being absorbed by China. The U.S. is one of the main supporters of Taiwan and the last thing they want is for China to cut the U.S. off from TSMC chips so I'm sure we made it very lucrative for them to build in the U.S.

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and direct from the tap source of cheap labor?
naaaaah
Arizona is right next to Mexico so kind of...


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probably just as much as they'd get from the CCP in China.
And possibly a lot let then they would get under the non elected and non accountable officials that run the EU.

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This is an odd decision. With the drought in the West getting worse Arizona's main source of water, the Colorado River, is drying up. They would have been smarter to build in northern Nevada or Western Oregon.

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This is an odd decision. With the drought in the West getting worse Arizona's main source of water, the Colorado River, is drying up. They would have been smarter to build in northern Nevada or Western Oregon.
Do fabs use a ton of water? I was under the impression it is mostly just gobs of electricity, which is cheap when you have a couple of dams producing power and a huge desert with a lot of solar farms in it.

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Do fabs use a ton of water? I was under the impression it is mostly just gobs of electricity, which is cheap when you have a couple of dams producing power and a huge desert with a lot of solar farms in it.
I don't think they do use much water, I think he was getting confused with led panels where Foxcon uses huge amounts of water.


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Intel uses 9 Billion gallons of water a year. California shut down all fracking after they ruined less than 4 Billion gallons of water and their toxic chemicals started getting into the drinking water supply.


This plant will have to be located next to the Colorado River and like oil refineries it will suck water in, purify it, use it, then drain it back into the Colorado River. In California the refineries are first required to drain their water into ponds full of a certain fish that dies if the water is not pure. If the fish die then the refinery is shut down. It has been like this since the 1980s. It's a safe bet that Arizona will not require this.



Expect massive lawsuits in the coming years from Nevada and California.

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