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post #11 of 23 (permalink) Old 06-14-2020, 05:56 AM
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Obvious troll is obvious, those M series throttle so hard they are barely useful for anything other than rendering desktop.
What are your thoughts on the Dell 5175?

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post #12 of 23 (permalink) Old 06-14-2020, 03:59 PM
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This is pretty neat. It's going to grab some of the market from snapdragon powered devices for sure. And honestly looks to be a fairly decent low power processing solution.

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maybe for home/edu users.

even surface is still too unstable for your standard end user many times. MS can't figure out how to get around "stuff in bag" syndrome (we call it) which most users require level 1 service to resolve. That, and I/O degradation that requires depot service to resolve further makes the device clunky to work with in any meaningful corporate fashion for long periods of time.

We only have two left in the environment, and they'll be replaced with HP x360s when their time comes. It's a truly superior, vastly less expensive, reliable, and durable product. Oh! They even come with functional keyboards. pretty legit stuff.
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Windows scheduling disaster will hit these devices hard. Linux is the only proper OS for machines running these chips.
Windows scheduler would be fine with such a design.

It's not that different from NUMA or preferred core architectures that already exist.


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This is pretty neat. It's going to grab some of the market from snapdragon powered devices for sure. And honestly looks to be a fairly decent low power processing solution.

Hah you've discovered the HP x360's too. I have also had less than great experience with the surface devices and later found the x360. When I worked in the dairy industry all of our techs switched from pen & paper to surface pro devices at a six figure cost to the company and the endless complaints & issues were just too much. I ended up helping out our sole IT guy trying to solve the problems and lost some hair from stress in the process.

Everything from the touch screen going in and out intermittently, to charging issues, issues of overheating during light normal use, fragile screens, devices not sleeping and instead overheating in the storage bags, etc you name it we suffered through it.
yep, they're trash. It needs a door on the back to access RAM & NVME, and needs some sort of "bag sensing" tech so it shuts down after 5 minutes, instead of running into the ground.

best part about the X360 is they're like 2/3rds battery. You can get hours of use, even with the proc pegged, at least on the i3s we use.

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What are your thoughts on the Dell 5175?
All of these fanless designs suffer from serious overheating and throttling. Cherry trail is a perfect example of a chipset that throttles so hard that it becomes equal in performance to Bay Trail, even though it's supposed to be faster and has a better GPU, and thus is a pointless design, which is why these tablets have all failed.

If you want a Windows tablet get a Bay Trail one or just get an Android tablet as even mediocre ones don't throttle. Personally I prefer Windows as they are more functional but for most people Android or Apple tablets are more than good enough.

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All of these fanless designs suffer from serious overheating and throttling. Cherry trail is a perfect example of a chipset that throttles so hard that it becomes equal in performance to Bay Trail, even though it's supposed to be faster and has a better GPU, and thus is a pointless design, which is why these tablets have all failed.

If you want a Windows tablet get a Bay Trail one or just get an Android tablet as even mediocre ones don't throttle. Personally I prefer Windows as they are more functional but for most people Android or Apple tablets are more than good enough.
I honestly never had an Android mobile device that didn't throttle. Might run Android 10 on a Surface Go and compare it with a SnapDragon 835 tablet to see the performance difference.

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Useless without 5G.

These tablet type devices with modems on them is another point of failure. I can't tell you how many times we've had to troubleshoot the 4G LTE modems from Verizon, ATT, and others on tablets at the company I work for. They're pieces of junk. The hardware hardly ever fails but the wireless providers are a nightmare to work with. They'll always blame the OEM, we get the modems replaced, same problem.

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When I first read this I thought it was something for a mobile device.

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When I first read this I thought it was something for a mobile device.


Depends whether you consider laptops to be mobile devices or not. I typically do not any longer since most laptops people use seems to be used like PCs and are plugged in wherever they go and just run PC software. There are a lot of people just mean phone and sometimes even tablet when they say "mobile" these days.

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