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post #11 of 38 (permalink) Old 06-16-2020, 11:41 PM
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You're right! What an amazing feature, it's just incredible, AMD are so smart!

Sadly B450 prices won't drop, they are definitely the best boards to get as these B550 might just as well not exist.

Hoping that the B550 would be a "budget" board over the B450, or at least B450 prices would drop...
It seems I will get neither of my wishes.

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post #12 of 38 (permalink) Old 06-17-2020, 03:06 AM - Thread Starter
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Hoping that the B550 would be a "budget" board over the B450, or at least B450 prices would drop...
It seems I will get neither of my wishes.
I'm looking at B450 boards again. The Tomahawk Max or the Carbon AC look pretty good. I'd rather get an X570 at the prices that these boards command, at least you get PCI-E 4, which is totally useless to me as I always get mid range cards.

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I'm looking at B450 boards again. The Tomahawk Max or the Carbon AC look pretty good. I'd rather get an X570 at the prices that these boards command, at least you get PCI-E 4, which is totally useless to me as I always get mid range cards.

Me too, too bad that B450 Tomahawk is so expensive now...a couple of months ago it was about 50 euros less.

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Budget boards they are not .
They do look like good boards mostly , definitely not budget friendly and not worth the ask at this time and if they have any worth it will not be shown till , zen3 drops and don't be surprised if they drop X670 and b650 boards with the zen3 cpus . or at CES soon after rendering them then as budget choice for 4000 series along with a price drop and drop in used value .
Just guessing , but I have been doing this since the early 1980s .
I turn 63 in a week or two and I am losing interest , I like gaming but I shake too much and I am too slow to be competitive in multiplayer but there are still games I can play .
So my $0.02 is that it is now up to the youngins to sort out if they are worth it , but I think not !
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After watching hardware unboxed's video on B550, it looks like many (like a good majority) of the boards are way higher quality than the highest end B450 boards. Seems like the prices make complete sense. The lowest of low end B550's apparently have the same VRM as a high end B450.

With the B550's having a much better VRM and I/O, these boards seem to be priced appropriately for the quality/power delivery/features you are getting.

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Quote: Originally Posted by icehotshot View Post
After watching hardware unboxed's video on B550, it looks like many (like a good majority) of the boards are way higher quality than the highest end B450 boards. Seems like the prices make complete sense. The lowest of low end B550's apparently have the same VRM as a high end B450.

With the B550's having a much better VRM and I/O, these boards seem to be priced appropriately for the quality/power delivery/features you are getting.
Indeed. I see no reason to go with X570 if you have one GPU and 1 or 2 M.2 SSD's, which is like 90% of users. And no fan on chipset for cooling.

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Indeed. I see no reason to go with X570 if you have one GPU and 1 or 2 M.2 SSD's, which is like 90% of users. And no fan on chipset for cooling.

I know there is a B550 that can handle 3 M.2s but the gpu will run at X8.

Will wait for more reviews and find out which will be a good one for 250$.

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Very interesting to see how the BX50 boards have crept up in features and price over the generations, topping off with this where they are seemingly competitive with the XX70 boards. I haven't been following the Intel side much over the past couple years; something similar hasn't really been going on with their side of things, has it?

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I wanted to compare these B550 boards to X570 and I noticed X570 is in limited supply. Newegg has 41 X570 boards listed that they sell, but only 8 are available for purchase with 4 of them backordered. Most say "Not Available". Are they still making X570 boards?

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Most bashing of b550 is a case of unadjusted expectations. Decades of empirical historical evidence show us:

No.1: To just wait for the prices to settle (As it has been since the dawn of PC)

No.2: To wait for the previous generation to sell out, because another reason the new one is more expensive is to make you buy the old one to clear stock without dropping the prices.

No.3: Adjust accordingly to how the company adjusted, if b550 does not follow b450 price points, don't prolong how long you're annoyed it's not similar (or are wishing it wasn't). The faster you reconcile the cognitive dissonance and switch from emotion to logic, the faster you can objectively search and compare and find what you need in the new generation that's comparable to the old.

No.4: Not to mention unforeseen consequences due to Covid-19, Trade War, etc, ...

To reiterate on No.3, Steve from hardware unboxed also mentioned it: take b450 Tomahawk best bang for buck ~$120, and find the nearest comparable motherboard which is MSI B550-A Pro ~$140.

Only a $20 difference and you get the following: An additional VRM phase, PCI-E 4.0 slot, an additional M.2 slot (of which one is PCI-E 4.0), 2x additional 4-pin fan headers, 1x internal USB3.2gen1 Type-C. To me that looks more than worth the extra $20

And don't forget once No.1 and No.2 kick in, it's gonna be even cheaper.

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