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The company that got caught installing RootKits in their BIOS/Firmware. Several times.

If you want an easily maintainable laptop, buy a Latitude or Elitebook. If you want it cheap, pick up a 3 year old one off Ebay. They are just as easy to maintain and the Latitudes at minimum come with OE partout lists and step-by-step picture guide instructions to remove or install every single part of the laptop down the the screw.
that's the same reason people tend to recommend old ThinkPads (specifically)

though you're correct, they most definitely got caught skimming and rooting a couple years back now.

are the screens on the dells & HPs as easily switched out? I should know this, considering my current employer is an HP Shop.

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Asus is enjoying a long time of good reputation now to turning out below competition level products. Judging by what I see on newegg they are still selling huge amounts while turning out less then stellar products. Im suspecting there margins are alot higher while still selling huge volume. Using there previous good rep, reducing cost on components, and getting nice bigger margins while all keeping volume up.

Same thing with z390 boards when they where caught cheaping out on phases and trying to market around it. Or the TUF 5700xt which was a terrible card.

Even when reviewers keep pointing out the massive flaws in ASUS products, people keep buying them in droves.
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that's the same reason people tend to recommend old ThinkPads (specifically)
Old Thinkpads were great, but people still recommending the Lenovo ThinkPads I've never understood. As someone who cut my teeth on desktop support back in the day, I can tell you they were crap like anything else. About the only thing that was nice were the design choices that made RAM, HDD, and keyboard replacements very easy to do. But man, these things had problems like anything else, and one model in particular (T410) out of the hundreds and possibly over a thousand units we bought and received over time, every single one of them had the CPU fan fail at some point within their 3 year lifespan (warranty period). And I can't tell you how many people would barely drop, or even just plop them down on a conference room table too hard and break their hard drives (various models). Always made me laugh at the ThinkPad commercials making it look like these things were so tough lol.

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Asus is enjoying a long time of good reputation now to turning out below competition level products. Judging by what I see on newegg they are still selling huge amounts while turning out less then stellar products. Im suspecting there margins are alot higher while still selling huge volume. Using there previous good rep, reducing cost on components, and getting nice bigger margins while all keeping volume up.

Same thing with z390 boards when they where caught cheaping out on phases and trying to market around it. Or the TUF 5700xt which was a terrible card.

Even when reviewers keep pointing out the massive flaws in ASUS products, people keep buying them in droves.
Been nothing but pleased with all my ASUS products so far over the last decade. Had used ASUS boards for my builds and many other builds since 2009 and they all still work to this day. Conversely had nothing but bad experiences with MSi boards prior to switching to ASUS in 2009. Shame to hear they sound to be really sliding. Where does one go for quality brands nowadays?

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the only issue we had with thinkpads were the SSHDs, and so far, on average the T4x0s(30 to 60) lasted longer than our G4 Elite/Probooks, which seem to require new fan coolers or batteries by the 2 year mark.

so basically, they're all full of the same crap

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so basically, they're all full of the same crap
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Just buy a Clevo based laptop like a Sager.
This x1000.

I sold my Sager to a guy that is now running an OC'd 8700K & GTX 1060 in it. Pretty sweet that a high end laptop can have a desktop socket and OC'able bios from the factory.

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When these so called gamers choose products based on how many seizures they can have thanks to all the flashing lights you know exactly what 'gamers' are.


How the mighty have fallen. Long ago were the days of the mighty Sabertooth that could compete easily with the CHV (I killed two CHV's), now they're only capable of churning our mediocre rubbish that can barely pass for motherboards. I recommended a TUF 450 board to a friend because he wanted the cheapest acceptable board and I didn't do due diligence, I regret recommending that board, it's total rubbish.
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I really like my Asus ROG Rampage VI Apex. This Crosshair VIII Hero isn't bad either. The AMD overclocking menus are insane but I blame AMD, not Asus. Their high end models are still good, it is the lower end stuff, like TUF, that has gotten noticeably worse.

I do not see how Asus is acting offended by people questioning their cooling decisions. I wonder how Asus expected the community to react when they saw things like this.
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"Soldering resistors onto your video card to bypass the manufacturers over current protection kind-of sort-of absolute-definitely voids your warranty"
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also -

nvidia claimed we were wrong when we originally gained control over NCP4206 buck controller on GK110.

they came to this forum to attempt to start a smear campaign against our progress. Fan boys tried to jump on, but DMMs + massive score increases = sauce.


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I really like my Asus ROG Rampage VI Apex. This Crosshair VIII Hero isn't bad either. The AMD overclocking menus are insane but I blame AMD, not Asus. Their high end models are still good, it is the lower end stuff, like TUF, that has gotten noticeably worse.

I do not see how Asus is acting offended by people questioning their cooling decisions. I wonder how Asus expected the community to react when they saw things like this.


wait.... what am I looking at? Is that = to the fake cold air intakes on cheaper model sport cars? kinda looks like they intentionally plugged cooler intakes.

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