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post #61 of 72 (permalink) Old 06-29-2020, 08:48 AM
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I got recently a Dell Vostro 3560 (ivy bridge era) and got a pleasant feeling about it even if it is not what I was aiming for a home latop to use instead of my secondary desktop pc I wanted to remove from my lounge.

The sturdiness and design was old-school ok but still nice, it sports a i5 3210 and a single 4gb 1600 ddr3 module. It was not booting anymore so the former owner asked me to save gigs of personal photo never backupped. After the photo rescue I played with it a bit.

I had a spare 256gb ssd around with win10 on it. I swapped it and it is working fine so no hw issues, just a hdd starting to fail or a windows 8 busted installation so I think I'll keep it.

The surprise thing, at least for me, is that it sports a rpga socket! So I can actually swap the i5 for a i7, and paired with another 4gigs of 1600 ddr3 enabling dual channel it will be a decent machine. It should have a hd7670m 1gb dgpu too but win10 after restoring lists only the HD4000 (but I have a "unrecognized other peripheral" in device manager so I hope it is it) and the 15.7.1 driver from amd site fails installing so I think I need some custom ini installation from Dell instead of amd generic drivers....

So, I can get that having a powerful laptop in a tiny chassis without having a jet in hears while sporting a replaceable cpu/gpu solution seems like smoething too good to be true but that ends in the niche of "desktop repleacement" config which usually costs a lot, weight a ton and need a bag just for the psu so something I would not refer to as a portable solution: I can make a desktop and a 24'' monitor portable too carrying them on my arms, so...... But I get that sometimes manufacturers are selling overpriced gaming stuff on a non-upgradable solution that is just as bad too.....

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These old 2011-2013 laptops are still amazing value as most of them have an rPGA socket indeed and will even support a true 4C/8T CPU's like the 3840QM, 2670QM and so on
There is also one very pleasant thing about these older notebooks - they don't throttle! No overdone boost algorithms, just pure performance.

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post #63 of 72 (permalink) Old 06-29-2020, 02:54 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Martin778 View Post
These old 2011-2013 laptops are still amazing value as most of them have an rPGA socket indeed and will even support a true 4C/8T CPU's like the 3840QM, 2670QM and so on
There is als oone very pleasant thing about these older notebooks - they don't throttle! No overdone boost algorithms, just pure performance.
That I agree to, I have a sager NP8180 from 2011 with a 2860qm and damn does it just work no trouble, no hassle no pain in the bu--tt, runs @ 100% performance @95-103 degrees (Been like this for the past 4 years).

I even locked the GPU (6990m) @ 720mhz with a Vbios mod and no throttle anywhere. (Had 2x6900ms but the crossfire bridge died and it is still $100 till today)

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post #64 of 72 (permalink) Old 06-30-2020, 02:40 AM
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Pretty sad seeing the sabertooth line being rebranded then turned into low quality trash

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Seems a lot of these brands that were once respected for quality have saturated the market with quantity of "gamerz" gear and with it the quality is not there anymore. Corsair also comes to mind. Like the PSU's, but this keyboard has had issues...

Going back to ASUS, have always had positive experiences with their motherboards going back to 2009-2010. Shocking to see some of the really bad stuff they are putting out these days.

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correct. many of the gamer brands have also quietly changed hands over the years, so its not really surprising

it drives me insane when I see people dumping hundreds of dollars on Commander/iCue products, when really they should be using Farbwerk/quadro/octo & Aquasuite.

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Seems a lot of these brands that were once respected for quality have saturated the market with quantity of "gamerz" gear and with it the quality is not there anymore. Corsair also comes to mind. Like the PSU's, but this keyboard has had issues...

Going back to ASUS, have always had positive experiences with their motherboards going back to 2009-2010. Shocking to see some of the really bad stuff they are putting out these days.
Thats the point of this thread, they need to be put on notice.

Its sad to see as many of us always had the old goto recommend Asus for a quality product that you will pay a little more for but now they have moved into the scammy territory and cannot be trusted.

It takes a long time to make a reputation and no time at all to ruin it. They have been doing this for awhile and because we have been letting them get away with it they just get worse, its time we shined the light on their new tactics and hopefully they will respond by moving back to their old ways of quality and stop trying to skim off the fools that just bite on marketing.

We as an industry have to make this the conversation as really this is the last Mainstream Mobo manufacturer you could Always count on.

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This does indeed stink. I recall my Asus K53TA bought new in early 2012 was a phenomenal performer and long standing rock in my gaming lineup until ~2018 when I passed it on to a new owner. A $450 mid range laptop with a dedicated video card that held its own for 6 years of solid every day usage is probably never going to happen again, sadly. (Though with inflation I'd have to bump that up to ~$600 to match today's dollar, in all fairness.)

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Cut up my ASUS laptop long ago, back when laptops still had rigid keyboards and weren't made as flexible paper. The cooling design on most laptops and computer cases is a joke full of restrictions to intake and exhaust.
Routing intake through the laptop's internals is a band aid for not having proper cooling on other parts, such as those VRMs with no heatsink etc.

ASUS has been a no go brand for about 10 years now, nothing new. Expensive but often junk designs with endless GPU cooling, even mobo problems and sometimes terrible monitor designs, infamous for worst service center/warranty experience and unfortunately had to verify that myself too once, never again. Popular brand that's milking it's fame.
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