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AMD specifically stated that it was not binned but refined TSMC 7nm. So unless they are lying......
AMD didn't state that so they're not lying. it's just reviewers stating that they "are expected to be built on a refined 7 nm-class silicon fabrication process"

All they're doing is maximizing profit margins. Good for them!

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AMD didn't state that so they're not lying. it's just reviewers stating that they "are expected to be built on a refined 7 nm-class silicon fabrication process"

All they're doing is maximizing profit margins. Good for them!
You didn't watch the vid in the op did you?
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You didn't watch the vid in the op did you?
If it wasn't binning then they would have stopped selling the 3600x/3800x/3900x because they would have switched over all their current manufacturing to it since these were made last year.

These chips overclock just like the 3950x, clearly just binned while increasing their cost.

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If it wasn't binning then they would have stopped selling the 3600x/3800x/3900x because they would have switched over all their current manufacturing to it since these were made last year.

These chips overclock just like the 3950x, clearly just binned while increasing their cost.
So you're saying you didn't watch it...gotcha.
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If it wasn't binning then they would have stopped selling the 3600x/3800x/3900x because they would have switched over all their current manufacturing to it since these were made last year.

These chips overclock just like the 3950x, clearly just binned while increasing their cost.
Because there is still stock left?

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So you're saying you didn't watch it...gotcha.
Just watched the intro and he's the only reviewer that mentions it. I don't believe him since no one confirmed it. Even AMD didn't state it. Gamers Nexus also confirmed like I stated earlier even none XT models are capable of hitting these frequencies. They're only selling binned dies to increase profits along with raise their price ahead of the 4th gen Ryzen release.


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Just watched the intro and he's the only reviewer that mentions it. I don't believe him since no one confirmed it. Even AMD didn't state it. Gamers Nexus also confirmed like I stated earlier even none XT models are capable of hitting these frequencies. They're only selling binned dies to increase profits along with raise their price ahead of the 4th gen Ryzen release.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7x6OvVU90A
Sounds about right to me. XT raises the price back to launch MSRP, so Ryzen 4000 can sit higher than them as well. With the 3800X at $320, 3800XT at $400, AMD will release the 8c/16t 4800X at $429, watch. Only reasonable thing price wise would be to make it a 10c/20t CPU.

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This is beginning to sound like Intel's pricing for locked cpu skus. Just you have a small chance of getting a bonus or lemon.

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