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post #21 of 76 (permalink) Old 07-07-2020, 10:23 AM
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[Guru3D] Review: Ryzen 5 3600XT, Ryzen 7 3800XT and Ryzen 9 3900XT.

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AMD Ryzen 5 3600XT retail box processors include a Wraith Spire cooler. The AMD Ryzen 9 3900XT and AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT processors do not. Even with a liquid cooling kit, you'll reasonably quickly hit 70, even 75 Degrees C on these SKUs, so please use proper cooling. AMD is betting high here, recommending the use of an AIO solution with a minimum 280mm radiator or equivalent air cooling to experience these products at their best.
Source: https://www.guru3d.com/articles-page...-review,1.html

This was already posted in news but only with a YouTube video. Here is an actual article with performance graphs and all the good data. Long story short, there is very little difference.

Edit: Not sure if Guru3D skipping the overclocking because they expect the results to be unchanged from the non XT or if they just haven't had time to test yet. I assume the latter. Here is another source that has some overclocking results: https://www.kitguru.net/components/c...-cpu-review/3/

Looks like there may be some improvements to overclocking, but nothing huge. 3600XT can OC to 4.6ghz.

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Quote: Originally Posted by WannaBeOCer View Post
Just watched the intro and he's the only reviewer that mentions it. I don't believe him since no one confirmed it. Even AMD didn't state it. Gamers Nexus also confirmed like I stated earlier even none XT models are capable of hitting these frequencies. They're only selling binned dies to increase profits along with raise their price ahead of the 4th gen Ryzen release.
Interesting as over at Anand https://www.anandtech.com/show/15897...vailable-today, they also state:

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The new 3000XT family of processors focuses mostly on boosting the turbo frequency by 100-200 MHz for the same power. AMD states that this is due to using an optimized 7nm manufacturing process. This is likely due to a minor BKM or PDK update that allows TSMC/AMD to tune the process for a better voltage/frequency curve and bin a single CPU slightly higher.
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First time I'm a little disappointed with AMD since 2017. This CPU wasn't necessary. I really hope Zen 3 can increase the clocks finally, but I kind of doubt it. It will be interesting to see how the market will develop in the upcoming months. But I think everyone who bought a 3700X last year made a good buy. In relevant resolutions like 1440p and 4k, we won't really see a difference between Ryzen 3000 and 4000. I much more looking forward to new GPUs.
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Only took them a whole decade to learn from Intel. Lets just see if they can release the same cpu for a decade like Intel with nobody noticing.

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This is beginning to sound like Intel's pricing for locked cpu skus. Just you have a small chance of getting a bonus or lemon.
Eh, not really. This has been a part of AMD's repitoire for quite a long time now. Still nothing nearly as shady as intentionally locking down functional parts of the chip to sell the non locked down version for more money.


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I see it as being magnanimous enough to sell nearly equivalent chips to the more frugal or less fortunate for less. Just like AMD with disabled cores.

Intel has locked clocks so you can't overclock and unlocks 200mhz for $50. AMD pre overclocks so you can't overclock and bins 200mhz for $50. Just saying it is sounding pretty similar.

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Looks like I expected.


Don't we usually have a thread with all the reviews posted?

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They're useless CPUs sure, but consistent silicon/clock improvements on 7nm probably bodes well for Zen 3.

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There is 4.6Ghz All core OC happening for some reviewers.

We have 2x of 3600XT & 3800XT doing it thus far. 3900XT is struggling more.

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Let's not forget this one while we're at it:

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