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post #11 of 24 (permalink) Old 07-14-2020, 03:28 AM
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Hard to do wafer scale. At high densities, wafer defects are more common. One of the advantages AMD has over Intel is that chiplets are smaller than whole die CPUs. Essentially chiplets mean get to cut out defect areas of the wafer and still get plenty of useful chiplets. The odds of getting a defect free chip diminish rapidly as the area of the chip increases. This is also the reason Samsung makes great OLED phone screens but could not make a cost effective large screen OLED TV with the same technology.
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I'm looking at a 2x5.25 inch hdd right now (It is a Seagate ST4182E, 160MB strong). Why go to 3.5 inch? Just skip right to an Antec 900 filled to the brim with 5.25 inch ssds!
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Hard to do wafer scale. At high densities, wafer defects are more common.
They do plan to test it and not use any with defects, the 100% wafers would probably sell for more but they can still use the ones with issues. Instead of cutting it up and throwing out that section just don't hook it up.

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Well my HDD is 1 of the only "loud" parts of my rig. So I won't mind, as long as the replacements last a long time too.

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and like, hard drives are mostly obsolete right now if budget isn't an issue. or does flash not scale at enterprise levels?
I wondered about flash at an enterprise level too. I'm not really in that space in the IT orgs I've been in, so I honestly have no idea what they have been doing.

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They do plan to test it and not use any with defects, the 100% wafers would probably sell for more but they can still use the ones with issues. Instead of cutting it up and throwing out that section just don't hook it up.
Yeah, makes sense. It's just like binning or GPU tiers where it might be the same chip with broken or disabled cores to make a lower tiered product.

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and like, hard drives are mostly obsolete right now if budget isn't an issue. or does flash not scale at enterprise levels?
I wondered about flash at an enterprise level too. I'm not really in that space in the IT orgs I've been in, so I honestly have no idea what they have been doing.
Hard drives are still the most practical solution. A 16TB SAS drive is ~$420, 18/20TB drives are going to be out this year.

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Hard drives are still the most practical solution. A 16TB SAS drive is ~$420, 18/20TB drives are going to be out this year.
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