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post #11 of 20 (permalink) Old 07-21-2020, 05:08 PM
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I was under the impression the 9900K had been discontinued though. And you pay dearly for that little bit of extra performance going from a 2080 Super to a 2080 Ti, so losing it isn't such a great thing to compromise on. This is overclock.net, not idontmindlosingperformance.net.
Because using a 2080ti with an Athlon is a thing. ಠ_ಠ

Next gen GPUs will be PCI-E4 and will have plenty of bandwidth at 8x. Memory clocks already impact performance far more.

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I was under the impression the 9900K had been discontinued though. And you pay dearly for that little bit of extra performance going from a 2080 Super to a 2080 Ti, so losing it isn't such a great thing to compromise on. This is overclock.net, not idontmindlosingperformance.net.
I was using it as a comparison between a monolithic 8 core against a MCM design. If the 4700g monolithic chip performs the same, maybe even better since the IPC is 9% faster than the 9900k we're looking at an average of 9% faster performance than a 3700x/3800x at the same clock speed.

So losing 2% wouldn't be bad at all.

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Because using a 2080ti with an Athlon is a thing. ಠ_ಠ

Next gen GPUs will be PCI-E4 and will have plenty of bandwidth at 8x. Memory clocks already impact performance far more.
Great point, many leaks are showing these can clock memory very high.

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Would it be worthwhile going from the 2600 to the 4000 series, or just pick up the latest 3000XT flavored Ryzens?

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Would it be worthwhile going from the 2600 to the 4000 series, or just pick up the latest 3000XT flavored Ryzens?
Zen 3 should be worthwhile if rumors are true. These APUs are still based on Zen 2.

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Would it be worthwhile going from the 2600 to the 4000 series, or just pick up the latest 3000XT flavored Ryzens?
I would say the xt versions would not be worth it. Their price increases over non xt version contribute to poor value. We don't know about 4000 series yet so... cant comment on that.
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Would it be worthwhile going from the 2600 to the 4000 series, or just pick up the latest 3000XT flavored Ryzens?
If what you use your PC for can be improved by having more cores, then I'd say any of the newer 8+ core Ryzens are a pretty solid upgrade. But going to a Ryzen 3600XT isn't going to bring any huge gains for the money.

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If what you use your PC for can be improved by having more cores, then I'd say any of the newer 8+ core Ryzens are a pretty solid upgrade. But going to a Ryzen 3600XT isn't going to bring any huge gains for the money.
So jumping into the 3700 and above would garner better performance for the money. That is coming from the 2600 Ryzen's?

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So jumping into the 3700 and above would garner better performance for the money. That is coming from the 2600 Ryzen's?
Just hold off until Zen 3 which should be out in a few months.

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Definitely, having 2 more cores and 4 more threads plus the additional performance boost of the 7nm process is a nice step up. But like I mentioned earlier, it's going to depend on if what you do can make use of those additional cores or not. Most modern programs do benefit from having more cores.

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