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[Phoronix] AMD Launches Ryzen 4000 APUs - But Only For Pre-Built PCs / OEMs

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AMD today officially revealed their Renoir-based Ryzen 4000 APUs. Unfortunately though for enthusiasts, at least for now these APUs are just available for pre-built systems and OEMs.

At a later date these new APUs will be available for retail/DIY. The top-end model announced today is the Ryzen 7 4700G with 8 cores / 16 threads and a boost frequency up to 4.4GHz and 3.6GHz base clock. The Ryzen 7 4700G has just a 12MB L3 cache and a 65 Watt TDP. The line-up ranges from the Ryzen 3 4300GE at the bottom end with 4 cores / 8 threads and 6 graphics cores on a 35 Watt combined TDP up through the Ryzen 7 4700GE as another 35 Watt part while having 8c/16t on a 3.1GHz base frequency and 4.3GHz boost. Vega graphics are still used with these APUs.

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Hopefully we get the GE's as well. They should move athlon to 15w.

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Here is the official AMD press release with the full specs of the new lineup - https://www.amd.com/en/press-release...raphics-set-to

This 4700G when OC'd apparently outperforms the similar core/thread count 3700X on CPU dependent tasks. From what I gather, the silicon has improved some and allows for higher OC's than the first run of Zen 2 chips - 4.7GHz is what I saw on the initial benches. Wild to think that it also happens to have a fairly potent GPU integrated as well. Should make for a really nice base to build a low power gaming rig or HTPC from.

Also important to remember that although the architecture is based on Zen 2 it's not entirely the same setup as the 3700X/3800X - These APU's are using a monolithic die and not the chiplet design.

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Probably a good idea to release them this way. Those things would be perfect for an inexpensive "work from home" computer.

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Quote: Originally Posted by bigjdubb View Post
Probably a good idea to release them this way. Those things would be perfect for an inexpensive "work from home" computer.
I'm inclined to agree. There's no real need for most ppl that don't play games to have a dGPU when these perform the way that they do.
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I'm inclined to agree. There's no real need for most ppl that don't play games to have a dGPU when these perform the way that they do.
If these are actually monolithic these should perform better than their MCM chips for gaming. Might even be better than Intel chips at 1080p gaming, can't wait to see benchmarks. Or will the chips with more Game Cache(LOL) perform better.
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Don't forget that any GPU installed alongside an APU is limited to PCIe x8 - So it wouldn't be a great idea to run one with a high end GPU like the 2080 Ti. The 3700X/3800X would be a better choice for a higher end build.

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Quote: Originally Posted by speed_demon View Post
Don't forget that any GPU installed alongside an APU is limited to PCIe x8 - So it wouldn't be a great idea to run one with a high end GPU like the 2080 Ti. The 3700X/3800X would be a better choice for a higher end build.
It will be fine if GPU does not run out of vRAM.

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Don't forget that any GPU installed alongside an APU is limited to PCIe x8 - So it wouldn't be a great idea to run one with a high end GPU like the 2080 Ti. The 3700X/3800X would be a better choice for a higher end build.
That's only around a 2% performance hit on the RTX 2080 Ti. We've seen larger performance gains that would make up the difference with an Intel 9900k at the same clock speed as a 3700x.

For future PCIe gen 4 GPUs there shouldn't be an impact.

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I was under the impression the 9900K had been discontinued though. And you pay dearly for that little bit of extra performance going from a 2080 Super to a 2080 Ti, so losing it isn't such a great thing to compromise on. This is overclock.net, not idontmindlosingperformance.net.

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