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post #1 of 30 (permalink) Old 07-29-2020, 10:10 PM - Thread Starter
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[Guru3D] Intel to revamp Identity with new logos and EVO, hinting at Alder Lake?

Source: https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/in...lder-lake.html

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We have that feeling that intel is trying really hard to cut away from the past, the competition from AMD as well as all the vulnerabilities. In that process, Intel will be moving towards a new product identity, including new logos and something called EVO, powered by Intel.

Next to new logos, Intel also registered trademarks for the name "Intel Evo Powered By Core" and fired off a new logo while they're at it, revealing that a new line of "EVO" processors will soon hit the market. Of course, speculations have already started, but logic indicates this will be the final name of Alder Lake-S, Intels first CPUs with a hybrid architecture, which is a new EVOlution.
I like the new minimalist logos, excited to see what Alder Lake will have in store for us next year on desktop. All rumors point to it being a monster. Shocked it took this long for a company to make a big.LITTLE x86 architecture. We don't need large cores to surf the web anymore.
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Quote: Originally Posted by WannaBeOCer View Post
Source: https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/in...lder-lake.html



I like the new minimalist logos, excited to see what Alder Lake will have in store for us next year on desktop. All rumors point to it being a monster. Shocked it took this long for a company to make a big.LITTLE x86 architecture. We don't need large cores to surf the web anymore.
Explain that to Google/Chrome and all the browsers based on it That thing will eat how many cores and RAM it can get and still choke badly.

The new Evolution has come, time to pay for 8 small cores and 2 big cores (aka the same old cores we have now). Tada, smaller die, moar profit, here we go.
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Samsung's lawyers will definitely enjoy this new evo line.

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Ewww

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Quote: Originally Posted by rares495 View Post
Samsung's lawyers will definitely enjoy this new evo line.
And Mitsubishi and probably about every other company who was allowed to "trademark", "patent" or what ever a silly 3 letter word.

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You mean the most insecure processors?


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No amount of shoe shine will help Intel polish the mess they created.
I wouldn't even be surprised if half the mess we see today is due to never ending power struggles within the company going far back.
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With the big and little cores, it would be nice if W10 gave us an advanced power plan option for when to favor the large cores by use% and/or process priority. Maybe a program like Process Lasso will add this.
I imagine there will be a few difficulties in the beginning with some applications before they get the core affinities sorted. And there may be some settings tips floating around for people looking to make the most of speed and efficiency. You could really give a couple cores the beans if the others were using little power.

I'm also curious on how much Intel will have the little cores gimp the memory system to save power. The atoms I've come across do this extensively and I suspect it is a large cause for how they feel jerky and stutter compared to core when you use them with regular tasks. For example check out the memory performance on a 6w Broadwell core tablet vs a 6w Gemini lake atom mini pc:
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/22135228 https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/20063399
If you are using both big and little at the same time with only one memory controller/ringbus the memory system wouldn't save as much power, but the little cores would seem better.

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Samsung's lawyers will definitely enjoy this new evo line.
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Yep, that new logo will fix all Intel's problems.

Ok, but seriously, makes sense considering the last several years that they'd want to somewhat rebrand themselves. In doing so, I hope they are also addressing the management fails and culture issues within Intel.

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Quote: Originally Posted by rluker5 View Post
With the big and little cores, it would be nice if W10 gave us an advanced power plan option for when to favor the large cores by use% and/or process priority. Maybe a program like Process Lasso will add this.
I imagine there will be a few difficulties in the beginning with some applications before they get the core affinities sorted. And there may be some settings tips floating around for people looking to make the most of speed and efficiency. You could really give a couple cores the beans if the others were using little power.

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https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/22135228 https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/20063399
If you are using both big and little at the same time with only one memory controller/ringbus the memory system wouldn't save as much power, but the little cores would seem better.
Why would you want small, weak cores on desktop? Laptop sure, power and heat are always the driving concern. But what is the actual gain from sacrificing chunks of the die to run 5W tiny cores instead of real cores when you're plugged into the wall and drawing hundreds of watts of system power anyway?

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