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Btw, the Galax sticks look great .
I can respect that. My objection is only my personal preference. Also, I could probably handle the pure silver ones too, they don't really look too bad. I can probably handle the crown.

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I can respect that. My objection is only my personal preference. Also, I could probably handle the pure silver ones too, they don't really look too bad. I can probably handle the crown.

Which is exactly why i came up with the idea, everyone gets to have their cake and eat too and guerilla marketers would have a harder time cutting up someone else's ram product since the consumer can customize the ram to look however they want. Only the consumer would be to blame . An even bigger win for businesses right? I guess at that point it just comes down to the PCB, marketing, ICs used, price point and the talent binning the ram.

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When i hit the lottery ROFL. I can't even afford life in america right now let alone open a business. I'm an idea/business minded man, I know how to create great products, i know how to grow anything on a large scale and i know how to shrink anything on a large scale. I know how to solve problems, I know how to create problems. I know how to force innovation, I know how to stagnate. yadd yadda i could go on and on listing my talents but who cares. WHo ever wants to use that idea can have it, its all theirs, just gimme a damn shout out, otherwise if i see a company use it without giving me a shoutout, i'll **** all over them and teach them a lesson they will never forget. So any and every marketing materials or anything or any media announcements of any ram product using that idea, any commercials, anything, You gotta mention my name each time, My name is Duplicity. If a company can't figure out how to work the word Duplicity into their materials, then they ought to hire someone else, like maybe me . ALSO, NOBODY PATENTS IT, EVERYONE GETS TO USE IT. If someone does patent it, they gonna have a big problem.
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What if ram kits had naked sticks and when you order them, you get the option to pick your type of heatsink and/or rgb bar that comes in a seperate package at no additional cost (cost factored into the sticks as usual) that can just be snapped/clipped into place or something? Would that satisfy everyone? It would also speed up manufacturing and save on manufacturing costs while giving the customer the option to customize what they want. Seems like a win - win for everyone.
I'd love that. Make all the RAM PCBs matte black and you'd have a customer for life from me.

Not that I don't like the look of many ram kits (I even liked OCZ's Reaper DDR2 series). Corsair's LPX stuff, and G.Skill's TridentZ ram appeal to me for different reasons. I even like RGB RAM sometimes. But I can't do fake gold, chrome, and crowns, lmao.

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Are heatsinks even necessary? I'm asking since server memory doesn't have heatsinks.

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lol they look like laptop dimms from the small pic.

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Are heatsinks even necessary? I'm asking since server memory doesn't have heatsinks.

Depends on the environment, a heatsink can make the difference between stability and instability.

I used so-dimms in a laptop with and without heatsinks. it shaved off 5c for the laptop dimms that were overclocked. Without the heatsinks, the dimms couldn't OC as high because the 5c made all the difference between stability. Laptops also have bad airflow.

Server memory isn't overclocked, it runs at jedec. It doesn't run hot, like ever. Server environments also ALWAYS have major airflow throughout the entire chassis, which also cools the dimms and the server room is always blasting with airconditioning, so that makes a HUGE difference. That's why server memory doesn't have heatsinks.
Heatsinks make a difference for negative pressure builds
Heatsinks make a difference for positive pressure builds with low airflow
Heatsinks on overclocked dimms can make the difference between requiring a fan over the dimms and not requiring a fan over the dimms. (meaning without a heatsink, consumers may be forced to spend more, which is no bueno).
Also, naked dimms look stupid/ugly, they are better off in a sleeper build.


Heatsinks are important and are non negotiable for consumer products, with the common sense exception of watercooling the ram . ln2/exotic cooling is another story obviously.

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What if ram kits had naked sticks and when you order them, you get the option to pick your type of heatsink and/or rgb bar that comes in a seperate package at no additional cost (cost factored into the sticks as usual) that can just be snapped/clipped into place or something? Would that satisfy everyone? It would also speed up manufacturing and save on manufacturing costs while giving the customer the option to customize what they want. Seems like a win - win for everyone.
This would be excellent for non RGB kits, but the problem is, how would resellers sell such things? They can't just 'snap on a heatspreader' per order, only the OEM can do that, if they have their own store. So this would prevent anyone except OEM's with an ability to sell direct to the public to do such a thing. And having bare kits with heatspreaders you can custom order with them would be a nightmare if a customer ripped off a SMD trying to install a heatspreader themself (that's the only way these could be sold at major suppliers). This would never work out properly unless the OEM did it.

For RGB kits, this would be atrocious, because having RGB sticks without a heatspreader would be just completely ugly, useless, and blinding also. Like looking at a bare 3528 SMD RGB LED on a Cherry MX RGB keyboard.
And the same issue still applies.

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This would be excellent for non RGB kits, but the problem is, how would resellers sell such things? They can't just 'snap on a heatspreader' per order, only the OEM can do that, if they have their own store. So this would prevent anyone except OEM's with an ability to sell direct to the public to do such a thing. And having bare kits with heatspreaders you can custom order with them would be a nightmare if a customer ripped off a SMD trying to install a heatspreader themself (that's the only way these could be sold at major suppliers). This would never work out properly unless the OEM did it.

For RGB kits, this would be atrocious, because having RGB sticks without a heatspreader would be just completely ugly, useless, and blinding also. Like looking at a bare 3528 SMD RGB LED on a Cherry MX RGB keyboard.
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read all my suggestions throughout the thread. The heatspreaders are in a separate package from the ram and sit in a bin waiting to be paired with whatever bin ram the customer wants. When a customer orders, the seller picks the ram the customer orderered and then sends the ram and the desired heatspreaders and rgb covers (if they got rgb ram)together in a package. customer assembles. It can work just fine. You kind of make it seem impossible but this is diy market we are talking about. Based on your logic we shouldn't put together computers at all because we might ding the cpu or something, nonsense. Just have to have the proper attachment mechanism. heatspreader on each side, then metal slip slide in between on the ends to bind them together. No one suggested rgb sticks without a heatspeader though. The suggestion is, to provide modular options for customers and the customer can assemble. If people can build their own pc and put it together, they can put a couple heatspreaders on, its very simple.

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