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Have fun with that if you're not an EE!
You'd actually be surprised how easy it is to use as long as you know how logic gates and flip flops work, and some very basic computer architecture of course (like what buses and registers are). Anyone who can write a "Hello World" program in assembly can also learn to program an FPGA overnight. I know the documentation has a bunch of stuff that'll probably go way over most people's heads, but actually using it is really easy.

Kind of like computers and the average consumer. The inside of a PC looks all scary and complicated until you actually try and put it together. Then you realize it's nothing but a really expensive Lego set.

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Im still lost as to what this thing is used for. I dont care either. but if its now faster, then thats the whole point of being on this site.

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You'd actually be surprised how easy it is to use as long as you know how logic gates and flip flops work, and some very basic computer architecture of course (like what buses and registers are). Anyone who can write a "Hello World" program in assembly can also learn to program an FPGA overnight. I know the documentation has a bunch of stuff that'll probably go way over most people's heads, but actually using it is really easy.

Kind of like computers and the average consumer. The inside of a PC looks all scary and complicated until you actually try and put it together. Then you realize it's nothing but a really expensive Lego set.
I realize they're not that difficult to program, but if you want to use one efficiently you need to be well versed in processor design...

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The inside of a PC looks all scary and complicated until you actually try and put it together. Then you realize it's nothing but a really expensive Lego set.
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Meh, Arduino is for nubs.

What you want for some real fun is a Xilinx FPGA.
sorry but I want to flash a couple of LEDs in a pattern - I think I'll stick with the Arduino. Thanks anyway.


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sorry but I want to flash a couple of LEDs in a pattern - I think I'll stick with the Arduino. Thanks anyway.
If that's it then you don't even need the Arduino. All you need is a parallel port and cable

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You'd actually be surprised how easy it is to use as long as you know how logic gates and flip flops work, and some very basic computer architecture of course (like what buses and registers are). Anyone who can write a "Hello World" program in assembly can also learn to program an FPGA overnight. I know the documentation has a bunch of stuff that'll probably go way over most people's heads, but actually using it is really easy.

Kind of like computers and the average consumer. The inside of a PC looks all scary and complicated until you actually try and put it together. Then you realize it's nothing but a really expensive Lego set.
Lego never made my hands shake when I was setting in the heatsink...



What would you recommend for books? I've sort of got Ohm's law and basic power but that's about it.

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You'd actually be surprised how easy it is to use as long as you know how logic gates and flip flops work, and some very basic computer architecture of course (like what buses and registers are).
unfortunately 99% of the population wouldn't even know what a flip flop is let alone how they work.

I doubt that you hate windows and OSX etc for their simplicity

Hell i went from not even knowing how to connect two LEDs together to building a full blown LED and Fan controller with temperature probes and a LCD screen on this neat little platform.

it is also extremely cheap compared to the more professional kits especially when you omit the programmer and use the arduinos bootloader.


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What would you recommend for books? I've sort of got Ohm's law and basic power but that's about it.
You don't need that much electrical knowledge tbh, mainly just computer architecture and logic. Sure once you've programmed it you need to hook it up to stuff so it can do something, but as long as you're not doing anything too fancy with it (like using it to capture VGA signals on your PC, or output to a monitor, or whatever else that requires separate circuitry) you'll be fine.

If you really want to learn it I suggest you start with any book on assembly programming. Once you understand how to do some basic stuff then move on to a computer architecture book and go from there. I have a book I can PM you the name of, I used it in college a few years ago and it's pretty good.

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unfortunately 99% of the population wouldn't even know what a flip flop is let alone how they work.

I doubt that you hate windows and OSX etc for their simplicity

Hell i went from not even knowing how to connect two LEDs together to building a full blown LED and Fan controller with temperature probes and a LCD screen on this neat little platform.

it is also extremely cheap compared to the more professional kits especially when you omit the programmer and use the arduinos bootloader.
For me, power and flexibility are far more important than simplicity. If I wanted simple I wouldn't be running a domain at home, nor would I use a managed switch or UTM box.

But yes, the Aruino has its use. If you know that all you want is something simple. But if you're buying something like this just to have fun with, an FPGA is a much better purchase (even though it's more expensive). Hell, you could even build a simple x86 CPU with one of those just for the hell of it. Actually, now that I think about it, that does sound like fun lol.

But there is a middle ground here, with CPLDs. They're smaller and wear out faster than FPGAs, but they're also much cheaper.

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That's pretty awesome. I've always wanted to assemble and program my own Ardurino but I don't have the resources. Not that it would be anything more complicated than a simple fan controller, but I think it's pretty cool. I'm not very skilled in volt modding, though, so I probably wouldn't attempt this.

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