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post #11 of 27 (permalink) Old 12-15-2013, 08:55 AM
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Nice straw man, guys. That's not what he's suggesting and it's not even relevant.

But equally, if you want privacy on stuff like your bank records (you don't want the bank looking at them?) or perhaps any photos you put online then the solution is simple. Demand all your jobs be paid in cash, keep it in your house. Don't use online services like Dropbox, Facebook or Google+. Pay for a VPN to hide your IP, but suffer latency on your connection. But, you need to figure out how to sign up for an internet connection without telling the company who you are. Don't utter a single word over any telephone, ever. Don't send texts, only hand written letters. Don't visit any shop/store/institution that has CCTV. Don't travel using aeroplanes or register for the use of firearms, etc.

Not really feasible in life unless you want to live as a hermit. Unless you plan on blowing up the president or murdering thousands of people then you can live your life in relative comfort and use these services and features of life.

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If you can't tell I don't understand these people that have feelings of indignation when Google want to target you with ads as you use their service... or haven't figured out adblockers. If a real person at Google wants to snoop on my profile and find out that I watch porn occasionally, then that's their burden, not mine.

You need to put this in half the threads on OCN in the news section. Bless you Sir. God bless you and Merry Christmas. If you lived within 200 miles I would drive to you and give you a big hug and possibly a GPU. Seriously this cannot be reiterated enough.

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Even though I liked that feature 4.4.2 added an even better beta feature. The new ART runtime is amazing, it has almost doubled my battery life on my Nexus 4 and improved smoothness as well.
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but what if he is a mad dictator like Saddam and there are no friendly allies to help ? Just saying ...

there is no argument to 'carry on chewing the cud like good little cows while the farmer controls all your moments and movements

Right, but that just sounds a little, tincy, wincy bit paranoid.

I've been using the internet, mobile phones and computers for years, as well as travelling abroad using my passport, using bank accounts and various online services for years. If my life is super interesting to the NSA then I'm doing something totally wrong.

I mean, don't get me wrong. The second it becomes a thing that the government looks at your Facebook and uses a status update about speeding as evidence to convict you of a driving offence, then I'll have a problem (and I'll also keep that crap off facebook).... But Google programming bots to scan my emails to target ads at me, or there no longer being a built-in privacy thingymajiggy in Android isn't something I'm willing to start a rebellion over.
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but what if he is a mad dictator like Saddam and there are no friendly allies to help ? Just saying ...

there is no argument to 'carry on chewing the cud like good little cows while the farmer controls all your moments and movements

Right, but that just sounds a little, tincy, wincy bit paranoid.

I've been using the internet, mobile phones and computers for years, as well as travelling abroad using my passport, using bank accounts and various online services for years. If my life is super interesting to the NSA then I'm doing something totally wrong.

I mean, don't get me wrong. The second it becomes a thing that the government looks at your Facebook and uses a status update about speeding as evidence to convict you of a driving offence, then I'll have a problem (and I'll also keep that crap off facebook).... But Google programming bots to scan my emails to target ads at me, or there no longer being a built-in privacy thingymajiggy in Android isn't something I'm willing to start a rebellion over.
I think you went overboard on this arguement, and I don't blame you, as the other side does. I'd like the feature included for other reasons. Yes we are tied down with the NSA and Google viewing us, but the Privacy toggle in Googles Roms are for individual apps, and this is to protect us from smaller things. Remember Androids Flashlight app that tracked people via GPS? Just unnecessary, and this feature blocks smaller fish, who will use the app to grab your phone number or personal info for malicious intent. It wouldn't be reasonable to believe I could black the NSA out with this setting, but its nice to have.

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I think you went overboard on this arguement, and I don't blame you, as the other side does. I'd like the feature included for other reasons. Yes we are tied down with the NSA and Google viewing us, but the Privacy toggle in Googles Roms are for individual apps, and this is to protect us from smaller things. Remember Androids Flashlight app that tracked people via GPS? Just unnecessary, and this feature blocks smaller fish, who will use the app to grab your phone number or personal info for malicious intent. It wouldn't be reasonable to believe I could black the NSA out with this setting, but its nice to have.

I don't remember that one :/. (the torch/GPS thing). When I found out about AppOps I thought I could block things like Angry Birds from having any network access (to block those crappy ads and needless draining my battery with network activity) but it didn't do it, so I wasn't interest.

AFAIK, the Avast! app either alerts you to possible privacy problems, or it does that and lets you block them. I can't remember.

And sure it was a little OTT. There are entirely legitimate and unquestionable uses for these sorts of features and I fully support any kind of inclusion... but not when someone turns around and says all that bank info stuff that those two were getting at.
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