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You know IBM will be raising support contract prices. I wonder by how much.
I also wonder how this will affect CentOS.

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Long term those of us that spent all this time looking for an alternative to Microsoft just might have to find an alternative to Linux because there is no way these corporate c%$ksuckers don't ruin it.

Free BSD. If you thought learning Linux was a pain in the rear and the Arch Linux heads were mean wait until you try that scene.

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Long term those of us that spent all this time looking for an alternative to Microsoft just might have to find an alternative to Linux because there is no way these corporate c%$ksuckers don't ruin it.
Can they ruin it though? Since GNU and linux will always be free and open and that is part of the license, won't they just always be contending with that next distro that popped up out of nowhere that doesn't include all of their spyware and malware? Mint is likely going to flee to debian.

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Free BSD. If you thought learning Linux was a pain in the rear and the Arch Linux heads were mean wait until you try that scene.
What is mean about it? I get that its a lot smaller than the linux scene, which means its not going to have as much support. But if the line of thought in this thread comes to pass, then BSD would just become the new linux, and when it started getting big and powerful like linux, it they'd eventually just buy it too.

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Can they ruin it though? Since GNU and linux will always be free and open and that is part of the license, won't they just always be contending with that next distro that popped up out of nowhere that doesn't include all of their spyware and malware? Mint is likely going to flee to debian.
They will most likely end up having source code available for the most basic OS that functions, but then it will contain proprietary features that are not open source and only come with the paid for version. Things like functioning DirectX and the necessary DRM for playing UHD movies and such. People will pay for the corporate owned Linux distro to get that full game compatibility, watch movies at the highest resolution, have everything that "just works" OS. The number of people who are willing to and knowledgeable enough to pull the source code and compile their own OS are very small, and even then those people would be forced to look for open source alternatives for doing the things that are closed source code from the commercial versions.


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What is mean about it? I get that its a lot smaller than the linux scene, which means its not going to have as much support. But if the line of thought in this thread comes to pass, then BSD would just become the new linux, and when it started getting big and powerful like linux, it they'd eventually just buy it too.

Mean in the sense that if your question could be answered by the man pages, you get "RTFM" as your answer, the elitism in that community is higher than the Arch/Slackware users.

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They will most likely end up having source code available for the most basic OS that functions, but then it will contain proprietary features that are not open source and only come with the paid for version. Things like functioning DirectX and the necessary DRM for playing UHD movies and such. People will pay for the corporate owned Linux distro to get that full game compatibility, watch movies at the highest resolution, have everything that "just works" OS. The number of people who are willing to and knowledgeable enough to pull the source code and compile their own OS are very small, and even then those people would be forced to look for open source alternatives for doing the things that are closed source code from the commercial versions.
Yep. This will be the plan and the method. An added bonus will be all the embedded MS spyware we all love so much.

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So they can't actually do any harm to linux distros. Sure, Ubuntu and the big ones might go away, or start being something that none of us want. But maybe having 10k different distros will now be an advantage, rather than a disadvantage (as some would say). Because there's always going to be someone out there making one that isn't owned by any of these scummy corporations.

Isn't it like this: They don't own the license, and never will. So linux and gnu will always remain free and open source. And without the license, they're really quite limited in what they can actually do. Sure if you or I start the next Canonical, or Red hat, they can buy us out. If we chose to sell. But there will always just be someone else. Cause they can't control the license. Its like they'll always be playing wack-a-mole.

Always another mole to wack, its a game you can never win.

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You could still end up with a situation like Android. Technically the OS is open source but for 99% of users and most things most people do, they are reliant on closed source binary blob infested "distros" of Android full of spyware.

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So they can't actually do any harm to linux distros. Sure, Ubuntu and the big ones might go away, or start being something that none of us want. But maybe having 10k different distros will now be an advantage, rather than a disadvantage (as some would say). Because there's always going to be someone out there making one that isn't owned by any of these scummy corporations.

Isn't it like this: They don't own the license, and never will. So linux and gnu will always remain free and open source. And without the license, they're really quite limited in what they can actually do. Sure if you or I start the next Canonical, or Red hat, they can buy us out. If we chose to sell. But there will always just be someone else. Cause they can't control the license. Its like they'll always be playing wack-a-mole.

Always another mole to wack, its a game you can never win.
That assumes that they can't buy control of the Linux Foundation and thus control the kernel. Anyone can fork what already exists, but the odds of that new non-Linux fork being mass adopted is slim to none. Slowly compatibility issues between the two would pile up and the corporate version will win that fight.


He speculates on the future of Fedora and RHEL, and thinks that the two are going to get closer.

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