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post #11 of 38 (permalink) Old 11-07-2018, 10:03 PM
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Been experiencing the issues myself and figured it had something to do with the latest update.


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post #12 of 38 (permalink) Old 11-08-2018, 12:32 AM
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I've noticed this happening with my default torrent client. Thought it was an issue with Firefox. Good to know what's behind it.
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OK... how would this happen is my question. It is literally just setting a registry value. When its selective, there is usually some flag or value that was not required before now being required that would cause it to fail. So... what did they change?



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I just checked on two of my machines running Windows 10 Pro 1803.

One machine had no problems with associations. The .txt extension was properly associated with Notepad++ (as it had been for a long time). I could even set the default for .txt to Notepad and back to Notepad++ with no problems.

On the other machine I had never set associations for Notepad++, so .txt was still set to Notepad. Here I did encounter the problem described in the article. In Windows Settings, Notepad++ was not even available as an assignable option. If I right-clicked a .txt file, I could chose to open it with Notepad++, but the association would not stick.

Here's what I did to fix the problem. I ran Notepad++ as admin, went to Settings -> Preferences -> File Association and moved .txt (and some others) over to the Registered Extensions column. After closing Notepad++ I could set the association properly and have it stick.

This appears to be a registration issue. Note that this is different from association as the former is what tells Windows that the program is capable of handling the filetype (I could be wrong about this). It's possible that KB4462919 caused some registrations to be reset (as the article speculates), but this is not a new phenomenon. I've had this issue occasionally going all the way back to the XP days. However, I've generally had no problems with associations if the program had correctly registered its filetypes during installation.
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This is an intended feature to prevent browser and app hijacking . the registry will detect changes to default apps and switch them back if not changed in the correct way . I have been deploying default apps to all my 20 + sites without issue. Windows 10 changed the way you deploy default apps from group policy to the use of default appassociation.xml



Best practice ---- >https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/...s-for-it-pros/

i know this applies to the Professional /domain environment but its still relevant for home PC's as you could deploy this via gpedit.msc

snippet from the MS article into the reasons for the change


"There were different ways and guidance to set default program prior to Windows 10 (see Managing Default Applications).

Before Windows 10, an application could check default apps, ask for user consent and set default app programmatically using Windows API.



But some programs skip the user consent and set the app defaults into the registry. The main requirement for default file association is often forgotten: the end-user is in control.

Now in Windows 10 checks if registry file extension keys have not been modified to prevent file association hijacking"


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So glad I managed to make a custom version of Windows 10 that has most of the bloat removed and (after a while) managed to make it so updates don't install... At all.

Not the group policy edit method either. From a fresh install (install wim) : )

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So glad I managed to make a custom version of Windows 10 that has most of the bloat removed and (after a while) managed to make it so updates don't install... At all.

Not the group policy edit method either. From a fresh install (install wim) : )

You could also have changed AUoption = 0 in the registry to block updates without a fresh install.

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You could also have changed AUoption = 0 in the registry to block updates without a fresh install.
No but I mean I've completely removed Windows Updates all together. There isn't even those options / icon in Classic Control Panel or Settings now.

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By design I'm sure MS wants everyone to use the built in apps not third party.

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My gpedited Win10 Education never updates unless I ask it to, which is very nice because I get to watch the chaos from afar.

You can run, but can you hide?


(The following bug is apparently only affecting the Pro version, so you might this time around)


https://www.hardocp.com/news/2018/11...py_from_store/

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My personal copy of Windows 10 Pro decided that it is no longer valid as the key stored on the Microsoft servers is only good for Windows 10 Home. I even ran the Windows troubleshooter where it listed all of the valid Windows 10 Professional licenses stored on my Microsoft account, but still told me that I only own a Windows Home license. It then pointed me to the Windows Store to purchase a new license after revoking my old license by placing the Windows Activation watermark on my desktop. After researching this annoying message the entire night, I discovered lots of other valid Windows license owners with the same issue. It seems that Microsoft knows about the issue and a fix is coming. At least my data didn't disappear into thin air. That would suck if it did it twice.

Edit, more sources:

https://www.zdnet.com/article/window...vation-glitch/

https://betanews.com/2018/11/08/wind...mber-of-users/

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