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post #11 of 36 (permalink) Old 12-13-2018, 09:53 AM
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LMAO - haven't been on this site in months - just popped in to see what kind of horse crap AMD and Razer are junking up the supply chains with ... and was not disappointed.

10/10 would read again - this is why I took my one and only Razer product back to the store after 10 minutes of use - Amazon Basics > Razer junk (except to paid Youtuber promoters).
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Is it odd that I am deeply happy to see the community come together to rip on Razer?

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So they released a completely optional program literally called SoftMiner without trying to sneak or hide anything and people are upset because?
I wouldn't want to be in business with any of you guys if you decided letting people choose to give us free money is a bad idea.
And no this isn't comparable to some form of predatory in-game microtransactions so you can stop right there.
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Another thing to add on to the list of reasons you shouldn't buy Razer.

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Just to add insult to injury.
I had a nice bunch of rSilver that I had been building up since the alpha.
Guess what. They wiped it all and deemed it as expired just as I was about 2-3 week off having enough to get a new keyboard.

Now they have a daily cap and the rate of it expiring means that you wont be able to acturally get anything straight out other then using it for XX% off.
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Another thing to add on to the list of reasons you shouldn't buy Razer.
Because you can choose to donate to them in the form of mining crypto?
I remember when I came to these forums because the people seemed smarter
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Yeah that's wild
Best update that host file
https://www.overclock.net/forum/226-...er-miners.html
Just checked that link I provided in that thread back in March and it's a dead end now. Here's the updated link:

https://gitlab.com/ZeroDot1/CoinBlockerLists/blob/master/hosts

Github was bought out Microsoft and it looks like they changed the root domain to gitlab.com from github.com. Guess I better check my Git clients as well. Haven't had a need to use them in a while.

Added: also updated that link in the referenced thread.


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Because you can choose to donate to them in the form of mining crypto?
I remember when I came to these forums because the people seemed smarter
It's the fact that they'd rather do stuff like that than fix the problems their products have. Mainly with their gaming mice, which have terrible QC. I once returned 3 DeathAdder Chromas to them, all dead-on-arrival or defective within days to weeks. Their customer service is questionable, and I've seen several cases of people's bad experiences with them, as did I; they tried to tell me it was somehow my fault. T_T That, and their software was always a RAM hog, and how some of their mice have no on-board memory, so they need the software open to have use of some or all of the features of the mouse. For the price, there's companies that make better mice, keyboards, laptops, etc.

Edit: That, and the fact that using their miner for hours a day on a regular basis would net you less "money" to buy their products than it costs you in electricity to run their software. Someone posted on their twitter that at the rates they're talking, it would take over a year to get enough for a keyboard, that is, if their currency didn't reset to 0 yearly. If they care about the consumer at all, they'd at least make it so you could earn a decent amount over time, but this is obviously just a ploy to get more and more money from unsuspecting customers.

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Just to add, I was curious to try it. I know, I'm an idiot. In the two hours I've had it running, I haven't earned ANY silver at all. I'm using an EVGA RTX 2070 and R5 2600X. You'd think with them throwing that 500 silver/day number around, I'd have something by now. Then again, they do say "up to 500".

They mention "If you have the proper setup". Now, mining rigs usually have motherboards with seven PCIe slots and a GPU in each one of them, so what exactly is a proper setup to get "approximately 500 Razer Silver or more within a day"?

Is it one, two or seven RX 480's / Vega 56's / 2080 Ti's?

The fact that they didn't mention what kind of setup you actually need to mine 500 units is disingenuous to say the least.

Razer is the same company that sells premium mice that a few years ago 'couldn't afford' to put a few kilobytes of flash storage on board their mice to store profiles, instead forcing people to create an on-line account to activate their mice's premium functionality - yes, you read that right, the functions you bought the mouse for in the first place instead of any plug and play $10 basic mouse - because the profiles were primarily stored on the cloud (you could get an off-line option only after you registered on-line) - and of course, their software was always on-line and of course they took the opportunity to siphon data from your PC, as it's deemed 'normal' nowadays in this telemetry ridden dystopia (see link below). It was only after the consumer backlash that they provided an off-line profile storage option without having to create an on-line account and upload the profiles from the get-go.

https://www.overclock.net/forum/375-...vers-down.html


So, I'm not surprised by this latest news.



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It's the fact that they'd rather do stuff like that than fix the problems their products have. Mainly with their gaming mice, which have terrible QC. I once returned 3 DeathAdder Chromas to them, all dead-on-arrival or defective within days to weeks. Their customer service is questionable, and I've seen several cases of people's bad experiences with them, as did I; they tried to tell me it was somehow my fault. T_T That, and their software was always a RAM hog, and how some of their mice have no on-board memory, so they need the software open to have use of some or all of the features of the mouse. For the price, there's companies that make better mice, keyboards, laptops, etc.

Edit: That, and the fact that using their miner for hours a day on a regular basis would net you less "money" to buy their products than it costs you in electricity to run their software. Someone posted on their twitter that at the rates they're talking, it would take over a year to get enough for a keyboard, that is, if their currency didn't reset to 0 yearly. If they care about the consumer at all, they'd at least make it so you could earn a decent amount over time, but this is obviously just a ploy to get more and more money from unsuspecting customers.


I had a Naga a couple of years ago which died in about five months. Sensor on it completely gave up, so that went back to the retailer who 'upgraded' my purchase to a Mamba TE Chroma. This also died after a few months. It would completely stop responding until all buttons were pressed to force the device to reset. Again, back to the retailer. They confirmed that more than half of the Mamba's they had sold were being returned due to faults within six months of purchase.
They swapped it for a SteelSeries Rival 700 which has been absolutely faultless since (about fourteen months now).


The other issues here is that Razer have opted to add a crypto miner to their software. It may be optional, but is that a default install or do you have to actively go out of your way to include it? Most users just click Next>next>Next instead of customising their software before install.
And now that Razer have added a miner, how long before it or a basic version of it is installed without the users knowledge?

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