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post #151 of 176 (permalink) Old 03-21-2019, 04:11 PM
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It's working really well on everything, PCs in particular. Plus there is loads of stuff blocked from the Rokus and Plex server. Pages are loading faster on everything. The news and tech sites are clean as heck. The only Roku channel I have seen an issue on so far is Tubi and I just whitelisted that site. I don't do much else on the web so I can't say anything about YouTube or other sites.
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post #152 of 176 (permalink) Old 05-30-2019, 06:24 AM
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They consider adblocking a "risk factor" to their bottom line? What about people switching over to Firefox?

Then again, the people that would switch over this are the ones who already block ads, so I suppose it's a sensible decision for Google. Though they lose market share.

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This is the wrong way to develop the web. But they won't learn. Chrome should have never gotten the marketshare that it has, so maybe this will restore some balance in the end. They do know that acknowledging the real motive for the technical change in public to their end users would be bad publicity (they of course had to do it in the 10K filling for the people that really matter), and so fumble around with supposed security / control and performance reasons which have been debunked, so they do realize that they have something to lose, maybe even to the level of unforeseen consequences.

https://9to5google.com/2019/05/29/ch...e-manifest-v3/

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The lead developer of uBlock Origin, Raymond Hill, has commented on the situation, both to The Register and on uBlock Origin’s GitHub, pointing out that allowing ad blockers goes completely against Google’s business model.
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Google’s primary business is incompatible with unimpeded content blocking. Now that Google Chrome product has achieve high market share, the content blocking concerns as stated in its 10K filing are being tackled.
Google themselves have even admitted as such in a recent SEC Form 10-K filing by Alphabet, uncovered by Hill, in which ad blocking extensions are labeled as a “risk factor” to Google’s revenues.
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New and existing technologies could affect our ability to customize ads and/or could block ads online, which would harm our business.
Technologies have been developed to make customizable ads more difficult or to block the display of ads altogether and some providers of online services have integrated technologies that could potentially impair the core functionality of third-party digital advertising. Most of our Google revenues are derived from fees paid to us in connection with the display of ads online. As a result, such technologies and tools could adversely affect our operating results.


Another source: https://www.zdnet.com/article/google...ill-be-exempt/

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"The blocking ability of the webRequest API is still deprecated, and Google Chrome's limited matching algorithm will be the only one possible, and with limits dictated by Google employees," wrote Hill.

"It's annoying that they keep saying "the webRequest API is not deprecated" as if developers have been worried about this -- and as if they want to drown the real issue in a fabricated one nobody made."

In his view, sluggish web page loading is due to Chrome "bloat" rather than the performance of the API itself for "well crafted extensions".
Hill also argues that to improve performance, Google should just follow Mozilla's approach in its Firefox browser.

"If performance concerns due to the blocking nature of the webRequest API was their real motive, they would just adopt Firefox's approach and give the ability to return a Promise on just the three methods which can be used in a blocking manner."



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Already took the dive to full time Firefox usage, I use developer edition for personal and normal firefox for work.

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Marin for christ sake, you telling the truth or not. As said either way it ain't funny. Whats the deal, if your lieing whats the point?
I've read quite a few of your posts/threads, seems out of character for you to bs in such a manor..
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What's the cheese with the developer edition?

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What's the cheese with the developer edition?
It's basically a modified build of the beta channel with a few features and config flags that aren't available in or don't function in beta, but have probably been in nightly for some time. It also uses a separate profile so it can be run alongside any other edition.

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Like what advantage is there to running the beta/nightly? What "features" or "flags" are useful? From what I gather there's just a bunch of extra telemetry to help Mozilla debug.

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